ATAG Dedicated Server is up!

[Stealthy]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Head movement? Do you have a track ir?

Yes, but I still need the plane to "shake" when I near a stall.

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by SEE

The server admins have already stated that the stats are contrary to what you are implying.

Show me a screen capture of 60 players evenly divided and 30 flying Spit Mk2s all with a cricket score, all of whom were engaged in low alt DF's over identical time frames using the same ac for the entire session and you may have a point. You see where I am coming from regards your stat argument.....it doesn't have any validity as a statistic other than to attempt to stigmatise in the negative and fails miserably to boot!

As for the Co E argument at altitude, you guys know as well as I do that you position yourself at a higher altitude than your opponent. Hence 'beware the Hun in the Sun' , flying top cover over your bombers and BFs not engaging in T&B. I rest my case.........

Ok firstly the screenies are a bit of a joke..hell i can go and get 100kills if you like and just bail out every time someone gets on my 6.. lighten up fella

Secondly..Ok were wforget about the High where no Reds fly and you can have your 30 and 30.. lets see where the Spit2 comes..take out the AI and have SPit2 versus 109's..again that doesnt mean anything and is not what were discussing

Thirdly..The large Stats on the blue side are from being able to take down large formation sof bombers with cannon..not 1 opr 2 with 303's..not to mention again..REDS do NOT fly high...again the stats mean nothing

and my Fouth point...If we waited above bombers at 6k for Reds we wouldnt see anything other than maybe 1 or 2 AC inc yourself

I rest my case

~S~

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

I hope there is not any kind if irony in this

nope

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by WatchMan011

Okay after reading this forum's lengthy thread concerning the Spit IIa I'm going to start with a disclaimer;

I'm a bomber guy with little knowledge of fighter aircraft and I'm also a mission maker.

With that being said I'm going to speak from a mission making standpoint. As of this moment I don't believe the Spit IIa should be present on the ATAG server unless it's placed in a time limited mission for testing purposes only. As a mission maker my goal is to provide a fun and challenging environment for as many people as I can.

The way I see it the discussions concerning uber planes whether they end up being red or blue are going to happen for as long as this game is around. Imagine the talk when the FW-190 makes it's entrance or "insert your plane here". These debates will continue. The only thing we can do is try our best to balance things out, which is exactly what we're doing now. One thing I do ask of everyone is your patience and understanding. For one the only reason I'm even aware of this thread is because Bliss mentioned it to me and winger commented on it in the ATAG forums.

After reading the posts on 1C my first reaction was "I had no idea that people were so disgruntled about this". My second reaction was, "why are only a hand full of people making the effort to post their concerns on the ATAG forum?", I don't have an answer for the latter, but I will make a suggestion that if you have comments or concerns regarding ATAG missions, please take the time to post them on our forums. Whether it's the Spit IIa, vulching, compliments, etc. That way we have a better idea of what's going on. If I want information concerning the ATAG server I go to the ATAG forums.

Finally I want to say thanks to all of you that fly on our server and it's my deepest hope that we can provide you with an enjoyable and challenging
online server.

Cheers, ATAG_WatchMan.

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/

~S~ Watchman..welcome to the Zoo

The FM's will be tweaked soon enough Im sure then hopefully we can have all the planes available all the time..

You always have these discussions about AC, it wont stop here im sure but when something is so obvious it gets noticed a lot and you hear it from both sides..not just one

when that happens action should be taken to make the time we have playing this sim as enjoyable as it should be, and certainly not be frustrating.

Again...Mucho appreciate the work that goes into your server m8

[MoGas]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

Beware of addiction

By the way it does not prove anything . You might hve been as-well scored all those kills in the Tiger Moth and then switch to Spit / 110 (beware of the tiger !!!)

well, no need for a fake screenshot, but anyway....

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by MoGas

well, no need for a fake screenshot, but anyway....

Lol...yours wanst fake was it?

[ATAG_Septic]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

..REDS do NOT fly high...again the stats mean nothing

and my Fouth point...If we waited above bombers at 6k for Reds we wouldnt see anything other than maybe 1 or 2 AC inc yourself

I rest my case

~S~

I do, whether in a Hurricane or Spitfire.

[bw_wolverine]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Ok were wforget about the High where no Reds fly

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..not to mention again..REDS do NOT fly high...

..If we waited above bombers at 6k for Reds we wouldnt see anything other than maybe 1 or 2 AC inc yourself

I rest my case

~S~

If I'm flying and not taking off, in the middle of a fight, or landing, I'm at 18,000ft plus. In a Spit Ia.

And I bagged two (maybe three) of your wonderfully unprotected bombers last night while watching two others take evasives and collide into each other. Of a flight of 6 He111's, only 2 made it back.

Not every flight is going to give you a dogfight. I probably only see another fighter once out of every 3 flights, and probably only see another ENEMY fighter once out of every 6.

But I haven't been killed in a very long while (not since I started keeping track, anyway) and I'd rather have that under my belt than dozens of dog fight kills at 1,000ft with as many deaths besides.

[Jugdriver]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

So Im not really biased here....

Now that is a laugh.

Since you did not understand my last post Jamz, so be it. Keep flogging that dead horse.


JD
AKA_MattE

[SEE]

Wolverine, I came across a decimated formation of HE 111's, just three with one in trouble IIRC! I wondered what happened to the others. You were one of the few Reds listed....thank's for leaving a few! ..............