Talking cockpits Spit vs Bf109

[David Hayward]

I have no good P-38 shots, but this is kind of cool.

(hint: it has nothing to do with the P-38)

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Not a fan of the big red bull painted on the side of that thing.

No but if it helps keep it in the air I'm all for it

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

What did you fly in Stern?

Went up doing some tumbles in a Stearman, Boeing's finest we got the bad news about BBD when we landed, the relief of knowing that Rob Davies bailed out ok was one I will remember for long time.

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Not a fan of the big red bull painted on the side of that thing.

Yeah, I thought so too, but once airborne is barely visible, and that all metal finish is damn sexy. And yes, if they pay to keep her airborne, bring it on.

Here's one of my shots

Originally Posted by David Hayward

I have no good P-38 shots, but this is kind of cool.

(hint: it has nothing to do with the P-38)

It's cool indeed! Is that Glacier Girl?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

It's cool indeed! Is that Glacier Girl?

It is. That is not the cool part.

Hint: Photo was taken on July 20

[Lololopoulos]

I liked this pair of videos and i've watched them many times. What variant of bf109 is it in the video? And the 109 cockpit does seem unbelievably small. i would assume Luftwaffe had some height restriction on pilot cadets during WWII?

[blackmme]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

and yes, the 109 in the video is actually a genuine Emil, originally an E1, upgraded to E4 after the BoB one of the very few Battle of Britain veterans left, which was piloted by Marseille (with which he shot down a Spitfire) and subsequently sent to Russia, where it was abandoned and recovered in a swamp.

Apologies for the intrusion Sternjaeger II but i'm not certain that is correct.
I remember the programme very well It's 'Spitfire' part of the UK Channel 4 Equinox series (I had it on video up until a couple of years back). The 109 is a G2 which became well known as 'Black 6' it was captured in North Africa in 1942.

http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/c...k%206'.pdf

The pilot is Paul Day who was OC of the RAF Battle of Britain Memorial Flight:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/arc...p?t-18274.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...emorial_Flight

Probably not a 'tool'

Regards Mike

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

The pilot is Paul Day who was OC of the RAF Battle of Britain Memorial Flight:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/arc...p?t-18274.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...emorial_Flight

Probably not a 'tool'

Regards Mike[/QUOTE]

+100

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by blackmme

Apologies for the intrusion Sternjaeger II but i'm not certain that is correct.
I remember the programme very well It's 'Spitfire' part of the UK Channel 4 Equinox series (I had it on video up until a couple of years back). The 109 is a G2 which became well known as 'Black 6' it was captured in North Africa in 1942.

http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/c...k%206'.pdf

yeah, I was referring to the Emil of this video, Black 6 is defo a G2, if you can find its story (there's a book out there about it) it's really worth buying and reading in one go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QP16QoNNkM

The pilot is Paul Day who was OC of the RAF Battle of Britain Memorial Flight:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/arc...p?t-18274.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...emorial_Flight

Probably not a 'tool'

Regards Mike

not when it comes to piloting skills, read my comments in the other posts on the same thread about it. Again, personal opinions

[blackmme]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

yeah, I was referring to the Emil of this video, Black 6 is defo a G2, if you can find its story (there's a book out there about it) it's really worth buying and reading in one go

not when it comes to piloting skills, read my comments in the other posts on the same thread about it. Again, personal opinions

Thanks Sternjaeger II, would have been nice if it was an Emil as with that cannon breach it would have to be an E2, and there aren't any survivors.

I have seen the book and never gotten around to it, thanks for the recommendation I will pick it up when I am down at Dux next.

Regards Mike

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by blackmme

Thanks Sternjaeger II, would have been nice if it was an Emil as with that cannon breach it would have to be an E2, and there aren't any survivors.

I have seen the book and never gotten around to it, thanks for the recommendation I will pick it up when I am down at Dux next.

Regards Mike

yeah, just like the Emil of the video, most were updated during the war, hence the scarcity of early 109s. In the book it's actually interesting to see that when they go through the cleaning process, they found evidences that the plane was in fact an updated frame of an F2 (if memory serves!).

Wonder what happened to that Me109 that was found in India some years ago, that was an early one too. http://www.warbirdsofindia.com/WDY/wbdy2002.html