Reviewing Luthier's roadmap

[JG52Krupi]

No No No... that was someone else but I can't recall his name now I am sure it began with an O..

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

You see it's a win-win situation: if the other people make it work i get a functional game, if they don't i can gloat and go all "i told you so" on everyone

Spot on.
Unfortunately I don't expect things to change.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

I have a bucket load of things i would like to see fixed, but my description of the issue is generally a bit more eloquent and detailed than "plz fix the crap ai/sounds/green fields/flavor of the month whine".

You know, the kind of laziness where i want things to work without any intervention from my part as an end user but at the same time i hypocritically rely on a bunch of other people getting knee dip in it

Not to say a little verbose. - Sorry mate, you know I respect your views.

What we're talking about here is a piece of computer software. If you'd paid Norton or McAfee some money for a piece of software, you'd expect it to work out of the box, without any input from any kind of 'community', yes?

Imagine describing 'bugs' to the Adobe company. Are there 'bugs' in photoshop? I don't know. But I'm a consumer, not an unpaid worker for a software development company, and if I was as positive in my approach to the problems with 'Cliffs' as various members evidently are; sorry but I'd expect to be paid for my services.

The work being done by the community in researching online bugs, offline bugs, and designing and building the kind of campaigns I expected when I purchased what was purported to be a 'Battle of Britain' simulation is exemplary, and indicative of the dedication of the community's enthusiasts.

I wish I could be one of those people but unfortunately real life takes up most of my time.

When I want to escape from real life, I'd like to be able to turn to the same software company I've relied on for the last ten years of good times, especially as they promised to produce 'Storm of War - The Battle of Britain', a subject very dear to my heart.

I'm still waiting patiently for this to happen.

[StreetGang]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

No No No... that was someone else but I can't recall his name now I am sure it began with an O..

I believe you are thinking of 'Ogel', the famous developer of "Wings of Fury: Paper Plane Simulator 2"




Here's a development screenshot that Ogel posted, notice the skybox isn't fully aligned;

[Skoshi Tiger]

Regarding behaviour: There are all sorts of ways of giving 'constructive criticism'. If the critics on this forum acted the same when they were giving constructive criticism when their steak was under cooked or their cappuccino was a little cold, I'm 100% sure that it would come back with excess of the normal allowance of e-coli or human spittle!

The roadmap: according to Luthiers’ roadmap, we're fairly well on track. Hope they get the multiplayer sound issues cracked ahead of schedule.
Cheers

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

Not to say a little verbose. - Sorry mate, you know I respect your views.

What we're talking about here is a piece of computer software. If you'd paid Norton or McAfee some money for a piece of software, you'd expect it to work out of the box, without any input from any kind of 'community', yes?

It doesn't, it is continually getting patched just like anyother peice of commercial software. These companies continually seek information from the community to keep their products up to dates with bug logs and beta programs.

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

Imagine describing 'bugs' to the Adobe company. Are there 'bugs' in photoshop? I don't know.

I use CS4 at work, Adobe Photoishop has ongoing patches just like any other peice of commercial software.

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

But I'm a consumer, not an unpaid worker for a software development company, and if I was as positive in my approach to the problems with 'Cliffs' as various members evidently are; sorry but I'd expect to be paid for my services.

The work being done by the community in researching online bugs, offline bugs, and designing and building the kind of campaigns I expected when I purchased what was purported to be a 'Battle of Britain' simulation is exemplary, and indicative of the dedication of the community's enthusiasts.

I'ld say very little work is being done by the community on this forum. And the problem is that the format that the critics are using to state their problems is next to useless to the developers.

As with the beta patches, Luthier was quite specific about HOW to report the bugs with log files, hardware, software and the setting that the issues. All we got were endless pages of whining.

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

I wish I could be one of those people but unfortunately real life takes up most of my time.

When I want to escape from real life, I'd like to be able to turn to the same software company I've relied on for the last ten years of good times, especially as they promised to produce 'Storm of War - The Battle of Britain', a subject very dear to my heart.

I'm still waiting patiently for this to happen.

I share your frustration over some issues but I don't consider myself wasting time, I'm having a hoot playing the game. But there are plenty of other good sims arround! If you think your wasting your life here why continue?

Maybe there are alot of people who stay around here our of loyalty for the "last ten years of good times"? If so many have a very funny way of showing it.

Cheers!

[AARPRazorbacks]

Reviewing Luthier's roadmap!



I think The CLoD team have said all thy need to say about what thy are doing.
The sim is getting better with every patch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN3Vc...eature=related

This is a business and thy know there are other software company's and 3ed party developers that would love to know what and how thy are doing things with the best flight sim ever made.

Just like FSX has been made into a 3ed party developers money tree CLoD has not been.

And some of the 3ed party developers are going to try making CLoD look as bad as thy can unless thy can make CLoD into a money tree also.

It comes down to this.
Are you going to buy a plane that fly's around different airports on a out dated sim or buy the most up to date flight sim that has ever been made for the same price?
Of coarse thy what you to buy there plane that has to be parched severely times before the thing works like it should!

CLoD is the biggest thing to hit the flight sim hobbyist PC in some time other then RoF.
But to see what some of the posters say on here thy just can not fly this sim, with a better PC then what I have and I can fly this sim just fine. Matter of fact I can fly this sim better than FSX!

I have FSX and enjoyed FSX until I got CLoD. I find it near impossible to fly any MS sim with a FFB joystick and hard to see with TIR5, with out sticking your head thou the roof of the plane.


And that is why I do not think the CLoD team are saying anymore than thy are.
And IMO thy shouldn't.

Originally Posted by AARPRazorbacks

CLoD is the biggest thing to hit the flight sim hobbyist PC in some time other then RoF.

Sorry but i have to completely disagree. It has been the only WW2 flight sim to hit the shelves since IL2 1946.

Biggest implies to me that it is really good, sadly at the moment it is not in my opinion, but it could be a taster of what could be done by the time the next add-on is ready and the good patches keep coming.

So to be perfectly honest at the moment i feel its not worth the money untill it is fully working.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

Sorry but i have to completely disagree. It has been the only WW2 flight sim to hit the shelves since IL2 1946.

That is why we need to be patient.

So to be perfectly honest at the moment i feel its not worth the money untill it is fully working.

I, on the other hand, have played this game of a time three times the average fps game sp. I feel it is more than worth the money.

Originally Posted by carguy_

I, on the other hand, have played this game of a time three times the average fps game sp. I feel it is more than worth the money.

Really what specs you got? mine is only mid/low so i have to accept low end graphics setting but I'm ok with that cos it still looks great to be honest. Just a shame about the lack of content, but yeah as you said it is coming.