IL2 and Sound Modding

[stalkervision]

The more I think about this issue the more silly I realise it it. Here we have a mod community with all the power in the world to do whatever they want and 99.99% not using it but just asking for just a little respect from a community with no power whatsoever to change thing back the way they want them and that insults them time and time again and calls them cheats and liars.

sort of like a man holding a RPG to another man's head and the man with the RPG asking the other man just to try to be nice and not to insult him anymore! Then the man keeps right insulting him!

[ElAurens]

Funny way to gain respect don't you think?

Respect is earned, not forced.

Another concept lost on you.

Pointing a gun at a man's head and demanding respect is a sure way to make an enemy.

But enough, I grow weary of these ill founded arguments of your's and Zo's.

Just understand that you have convinced no one in the online community.
And your veiled threats have not gone un-noted.

And all for some cheesy hacked together virtual aircraft, which after a few months will be every bit as boring as the 300 odd aircraft we now have, and you still won't have offline fixed.

The joke is on you in the end.

[crazyivan1970]

I wonder when stalkervision will stop calling bunch of hackers a "mod community"

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by crazyivan1970

I wonder when stalkervision will stop calling bunch of hackers a "mod community"

tsk..tsk...Ivan. I thought mods all believe in promoting peace through understanding..

apparently they revert to their true troll nature on other forums..

[stalkervision]

alright so be it "Those damn hackers. The only true mods are Il-2 community driven"

which will cease to be supported after 4.09 ....

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Funny way to gain respect don't you think?

The crux of it that the hackers and their supporters ignored the most important fact, that this all is done against the developper, against his will.
Some of them may do it legally so it doesn`t make a difference if they ever should be gratefful for the value Oleg Maddox presented with his sim.After all these years of continued dev support with countless stuff given for free, guys like stalkervision don`t gave a damn anyway.For them, their needs and entertainment is all there is to it.They do not see the broader meaning - IL2 was something never before created and it ends its life stabbed in the back by its socalled community.The only optimistic thought here is that it took them 5 years so maybe BoB still has a chance.Because if they can breach it quickly after the release, the whole concept of such a unique simulation may be buried alltoghether.
If I was Oleg,I`d price my games from now just as MS does.The stupid kiddies will pay dearly for their toys and the financial compensation for Oleg might just keep him going on with this.


The question is what sense is there in creating whole new theatres of operations through few years if hackers can create all those by themselves?Naive are those who think they will only play with the offline version of BoB.As much as many of us can`t understand it, cheaters(which have open door now by the hackers) will want to modify online countent aswell.

FPS games or sims like SH can deal with it, but flight sims can be damaged with such a tendency.Offliners will still have their offline version to modify but onliners won`t have anything since online content may be hacked aswell.

But enough, I grow weary of these ill founded arguments of your's and Zo's.

Fly_zo ran out of arguments long ago, he`s just spectating.Stalkervision`s only trolling as his posts do not fit any logical course of thoughts.The funny thing about it is that even though his crap post are thought to discourage those who do not agree with hackers because "it is inevitable,you can`t win blah blah blah", he keeps answering as if our resistance had any sense.

The fact is that the hackers couldn`t do without those supporting them.The people who have no respect to Oleg MAddox give them all the tools to continue.The motivation for the hackers to crack the BoB code was never as high as now.
The counterbalance to them consists of decent, well informed people that are perfectly able to think logically,realising the facts, connecting them with the past and probably future consequences.

So as much as they keep saying that we don`t mean a thing, they`re wrong.They are lots of uninformed poeple out there who are Oleg`s fans.

We can go on informing them here on these boards on what is happening and what grounds it has.Even as just few posts completely and logically denying arguments of hacker supporters, we`re doing a small but needed service to Oleg Maddox`s creation.
Because as I said before, none of them is able to give erguments we wouldn`t be able to "decompose" in 15seconds.

Jasonbirder`s legal argument is partly valid,as the courts of USA announced EULA as flawed law.Some precedents dealing with similar cases may appear aswell as the law may change in the future.So if you live in say Croatia, such judgements do not concern you.

And all for some cheesy hacked together virtual aircraft, which after a few months will be every bit as boring as the 300 odd aircraft we now have, and you still won't have offline fixed.

The joke is on you in the end.

That`s right, the kiddies will never be able to enjoy the game.Not because there is too few content but because their creativity is lacking.Whatever goods they get, after a week it`s still all the same.It was clear on from Forgotten Battles which was a gigantic sim itself, presenting unlimited gameplay.In time, the kiddies will dround in the sheer number and low quality of the hacks and forget the game, just as a child leaves a toy after playing with it for 10 minutes.


To think they had to destroy "IL2 Sturmovik" community to realise.




I say to the real IL2 community : DON`T GIVE UP, FIGHT`EM WHEN YOU CAN AND DON`T FORGET!

[ElAurens]

Thank you carguy_ for that.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender,

[stalkervision]

Carguy.." say to the real IL2 community : DON`T GIVE UP, FIGHT`EM WHEN YOU CAN AND DON`T FORGET!
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Please ....You guys are all " trolling for trouble" You have zero and I mean zero interest in any compromises whatsoever..


and we have the RPg...

[ElAurens]

Compromise in not an option.

[stalkervision]

Then you had better learn how to duck very quickly..

actually your right now that I think of it. You have nothing whatsoever to compromise with..