Friday June 17 Update – Next Patch Info

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by robtek

If you fly red you might not wish that blue gets the E1!!
In CoD the machine-guns have a realistic destructive power and when the wing guns and the
fuselage guns in the E1 have the same ballistics they will be devastating!
I, for my part, made many more kills with the mg than with the cannons.

cheers
robtek

+1
MG-FF Cannons shaking the plane, can't aim with it. And compared with MG17, its weak (or just missing the /M shells). Most of time i dont use it. Only in very close combat.

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by Redroach

****** I knew it. I should've bet consistently on the worst cases.
Well, then, a new bet: Considering the "all we've said previously is implemented", I count on at least 3 major bugs, making the patch as worthless as the previous ones.

I have to cut the lawn, walk the dog and bring the coffee machine for service.
I will not do any of that because the new patch will fix everything



...maybe

[naz]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Who's "we" Kimosabe?

Maybe you should be more specific so that others don't think your trying to speak for the whole community. Your not.

Could you please explain what your on about here?...

I believe the guys from Desastersoft are a third party developer mate and have addons in the works for Clod (Campaigns etc). What he "is on about" is, I suspect, a growing frustration in finding it difficult to get any feedback from Maddox Games. And from the sounds of it, any replies whatsoever to emails and offers of help? For what its worth, when he says "we" I suspect he is referring to their team, and not the games userbase/fanbase as a whole.

If what he says is true, things doesn't sound promising I guess.

Still, I await the games future improvement...hoping it reaches the heights it has the potential to do.

[whatnot]

Thanks for the update Luthier and keep the updates coming!

What I would really like to see with all the talent and passion out there is a mechanism for community created content to be added in the official package once the SDK etc is out. Skins, campaigns, missions, planes, ships.. whatever the SDK will allow to create. Ofcourse there needs to be high standards for such content, but it would ensure the versions people have don't get too fragmented and limit the online possibilities due to security checks. Especially as the online player base is pretty slim at the moment.

But yes, those are future hopes and dreams.. focus on fundamentals now.

Originally Posted by Baron

Usual suspects voicing (vomiting) their "opinions", what a surprise.

Patch coming 4 days later than NOT promised and they practically commit group suicide. LoL

You wish! If that would be true it would take only one delay of a non-promised schedule to cut out the whine-weed from these forums for good.

It's hard to understand that after such a series of dissapointments with the title they still find the energy to be the most active posters around the forums leaving a trail of tears which ever thread they pass by. That must be masochism of some sort.

[shabir]

whether this patch is a no?

Today is 18 June and further updates on Steam do not have: (

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by Osprey

And a request to those German fliers who keep requesting the E4. Could you also request the most common variant, the E1. For some reason you don't seem to complain, I can't think why exactly.......... Do you want a sim or do you just want to have as many advantages as possible?

Luthier said it earlier already, that it E-1 and it E-4 will get into the game. What would it be necessary to ask this for after these? The E-1 is simple.
Anyway, we don't know, that the E-4 with what kind of equipments arrive. We talk about it, let it not be necessary to ask it later, if something would be left out.

[Manuc]

great, a new german ship. Thanks you for your hard work to make this already great sim better and better

[whatnot]

Originally Posted by csThor

You must be aware that you guys can't fix all the issues on your own at the same time. People are offering help and yet there is no feedback. This is disappointing, to say the least.

This is weird for me too. Through the community they could get hundreds of hours of extra work force that is dedicated and knowledgeable on the topic.

This is speculation ofcourse, but I think it originates from the same bucket as the challenges with communication in general. Those two would be easy and low hanging fruits to harvest, but profound issues in the release have created walls of urgent extra work. This has a tendency of creating a stress driven tunnel-vision where focus is pinpointed only to the next milestone like the eye of Sauron. In this mode the easy wins are often not identified or prioritized high enough as they're not a concrete step in achiving the next objective which is the next patch atm.

I've been there myself and observed this happen around me too. It is an effective way in achieving the next milestone, but can have dramatic adverse effects for a longer term efficiency as you're looking only at the current 'battle' at hand instead of the 'war' as a whole.

And again, just speculation, but the variables in the equation could support such an analysis. And what the hell, as there isn't a patch nor a Q&A going on here one might as well spend the time on assumptions and innuendos.

[whatnot]

Originally Posted by shabir

whether this patch is a no?

Today is 18 June and further updates on Steam do not have: (

Experiencing some challenges reading the first post by luthier?

"We’ve been pushing it out all day, but it’s just not coming out."

"We plan to work on it over the weekend, test internally on Monday, and release the beta on Tuesday."

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by naz

I believe the guys from Desastersoft are a third party developer mate and have addons in the works for Clod (Campaigns etc). What he "is on about" is I suspect a growing frustration in finding it difficult to get any feedback from Maddox Games. And from the sounds of it, any replies whatsoever to emails and offers of help? For what its worth, when he says "we" I suspect he is referring to their team, and not the games userbase/fanbase as a whole.

If what he says is true, things doesn't sound promising I guess.

Still, I await the games future improvement...hoping it reaches the heights it has the potential to do.

If they are a 'third party' developer they chose a very unusual place to discuss their financial arrangements with MG. Maybe it is their attitude (ie venting on a public forum) which is the cause of lack of communication from MG? Who knows? Certainly not me.

One thing I do know is that if you offer unsolicited advice, you shouldn't get offended if the recipient ignores you. That's just the way of the world and transcends all cultural boundaries.

Also any manpower they are wasting is their own choice based upon the possiblity of future reward. I doubt MG will release their SDK's until they are ready to be released. They will just have to deal with that.

Now before today I've never even heard of a Minensuchboot 1935, but with over 65 examples built up to 1940 I expect they were fairly common.

http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmari...t35/ships.html

Cheers!