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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-29-2011, 07:50 PM
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you mean Eagle Dynamics
cause Dcs is a project
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Old 05-29-2011, 07:59 PM
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:40 PM
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Maybe it's just a sign that they are incredibly busy? Luthier said that if he isn't around the forums a lot, then it's a sign that they are hard at work.
Regarding a forum manager, then that will come when the team decide to introduce him/her. Whenever this will be only they can say. I am sure that they all know what the community wants/expects, so I don't think we need to worry that they are completely detached (despite what CloD's release might say about them).
I think it's more of a sign that they appear to have little concern about the folk who purchase their product(s), it seems it's all about the money now, I guess it has to be, all the work being done at this moment in time is aimed purely at American sales.
Have we ever had an official apology and some sort of explanation as to why we were sold a product that they knew was unfinished, yet at the same time continued to deceive us right up to release? I'm certain If they truly cared we would have had that humble statement from the dev's, not even a 'sorry guys' from Oleg whose been lucky to have enjoyed such a loyal following for all these years. I'm sure that had they had the decency to make such a statement that they would of been forgiven by the mass majority for the poor state of the game upon release. Until that statement is made then I personally have little trust or faith in what this current team do or say, 'actions speak louder than words'.
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:42 PM
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Or did i miss anything? I for my part would greatly apprechiate to at least get just a few lines about progress and when the time the next patchrelease is aimed to be. Especially since the game is pretty messed iup right now for many people (if not all) the mainly play MP.
But running completely in the dark is pretty shitty dear DEVteam!

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That's basically what I was asking here, http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=23341, but maybe I was trying to be too nice.
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:47 PM
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Im sure this happened last time and Luth replied with 'they are hiring someone to take care of the news part'.. you would think by now what the paying public are asking them would get...an update, not a patch...an update i.e news..

I dont think that its unreasonable thst every 7 days we get an update on fixes etc...

For people reading these forums and havent got the game yet it could be the difference as to whether he goes out tomoz and buys it.

just dont understand the mindset

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Old 05-29-2011, 09:00 PM
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I think it's more of a sign that they appear to have little concern about the folk who purchase their product(s), it seems it's all about the money now, I guess it has to be, all the work being done at this moment in time is aimed purely at American sales.
Have we ever had an official apology and some sort of explanation as to why we were sold a product that they knew was unfinished, yet at the same time continued to deceive us right up to release? I'm certain If they truly cared we would have had that humble statement from the dev's, not even a 'sorry guys' from Oleg whose been lucky to have enjoyed such a loyal following for all these years. I'm sure that had they had the decency to make such a statement that they would of been forgiven by the mass majority for the poor state of the game upon release. Until that statement is made then I personally have little trust or faith in what this current team do or say, 'actions speak louder than words'.
I agree that it's vital; but no one has any idea what's going on at their end (it's purely speculative) so we can only really trust that they will have learnt from 10 years experience to suit the community in whatever way possible, and work prosperously with them.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:12 PM
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Maybe it's just a sign that they are incredibly busy? Luthier said that if he isn't around the forums a lot, then it's a sign that they are hard at work.
Alternatively, it could be a sign that they are working on patches with the same lethargic and unproductive sloth that they displayed in development over the last five years?
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:14 PM
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Could be. Maybe they've captured the Easter Bunny? We honestly have no real idea (yet)
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:24 PM
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Could be. Maybe they've captured the Easter Bunny? We honestly have no real idea (yet)
That is it we do not even have a clue. That is the problem.
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:56 PM
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I think it's more of a sign that they appear to have little concern about the folk who purchase their product(s), it seems it's all about the money now, I guess it has to be, all the work being done at this moment in time is aimed purely at American sales.
Have we ever had an official apology and some sort of explanation as to why we were sold a product that they knew was unfinished, yet at the same time continued to deceive us right up to release? I'm certain If they truly cared we would have had that humble statement from the dev's, not even a 'sorry guys' from Oleg whose been lucky to have enjoyed such a loyal following for all these years. I'm sure that had they had the decency to make such a statement that they would of been forgiven by the mass majority for the poor state of the game upon release. Until that statement is made then I personally have little trust or faith in what this current team do or say, 'actions speak louder than words'.
Ok...For fun, I'll give it a shot.... :

Oleg had a contract as the lead designer with UBI and had to lead the project to the finish line and release it. Things went wrong at a personnal level with those two parts. Financing would be stoped unless Oleg finishes the project that went waaaaaay over time and budget, mainly due to Oleg 's passion for "overdetailed" nit-picking accuracy- historicaly- correct of and non-essential priority things....
Oleg's departure was a long time ago decision so the solution was to get rid of Oleg's contract and release the game a.s.a.p... Then finally Luthier was promoted to Lead designer and went under contract with UBI to finish the project. Then he got more money and time and new staff.
These are not patches that we have from time to time, these are parts of never before done things in the game that have to be patched after release.
Luthier is not patching the game, he is completing it....
So North American release is the last hope of making some success and money out of this game...Lots of pressure....

That is, of course, pure speculation, but I've seen that scenario before !

SAlute !
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