Beta Patch-Good/Bad. All discussions here please.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by avioni

seriously? i own over 150 games all of them playable.

ill put this in a list of things to check from now on when buying games from 1c (always chek if the game is actually a game or a work in progress)
oh wait. ill save myself the trouble and never look at them again.

I'm completely serious. Buying something without having any idea if it will ever work is pretty stupid.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Who would but a game not knowing if it would start or not...

Apparently you did. You should have waited for the reviews.

[bw_wolverine]

Originally Posted by avioni

so now you say the game is not broken. thats its just me. i guess all the other hundreds of people complaining even the developers are wrong and the game is not broken.

you just lost me there m8.

Not at all. We've been discussing the fact that the game needs fixing. Hundreds of people complaining is not everyone. People who complain or have issues are vocal about it. How many people who are content will create a forum account to log in and say "I'm fine with this." You're making the mistake of assuming that everyone with something to say on the subject is here on the forums saying it.

Everyone will benefit from fixes, for sure, but not everyone needs them to enjoy this game as it is right now.

Your 'movie' analogy suggests that no one can enjoy this product when that's clearly not true.

[MadTommy]

Originally Posted by Ataros

Try defragmenting files after each patch.

Thanks i'm try tat, appreciate the help. It is on a SSD so it may be fruitless but i'll try it.

[Oktoberfest]

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

This is ridiculous. You posted yourself that you can play this game at low settings. You even posted a screenshot showing 40+ frames a second over the water. That's a performance issue, not a game breaking fault.

And keep in mind that not everyone is having these issues. Some people are enjoying this game. The film breaking and the lights going out affects EVERYONE in the theater. If you suddenly go blind while watching the movie, that's your own situation, not the filmmakers.

The internet: where hyperbole goes on steroids.

Guy, that's the worst bad faith I have seen so far !

Comparaison was good : you see a good trailer, go watch the movie and the movie sucked. Fine, that can happen (Battle LA gave me this impression for instance, but I think some people liked it). You had 100% of the product at the release of the movie, so you can have a pretty accurate judgement about the movie towards your personnal tests.

However, if Clodo was a movie, then:
- All the actors would be dubbed by a synthetizer and all of them (men and women) with the same voice,
- Special effects would be cancelled,
-The film would play at 5 frames per second ever 5 seconds,
-It would have been filmed in teletubbies land to get those colours,
-The movie would better be a remake of "the old man and the sea" to avoid stuttering as soon as a building appears,
- The ending would be a Blue Screen of Death or a windows message box : fatal crash..

[bw_wolverine]

Originally Posted by Oktoberfest

Guy, that's the worst bad faith I have seen so far !

Comparaison was good : you see a good trailer, go watch the movie and the movie sucked. Fine, that can happen (Battle LA gave me this impression for instance, but I think some people liked it). You had 100% of the product at the release of the movie, so you can have a pretty accurate judgement about the movie towards your personnal tests.

However, if Clodo was a movie, then:
- All the actors would be dubbed by a synthetizer and all of them (men and women) with the same voice,
- Special effects would be cancelled,
-The film would play at 5 frames per second ever 5 seconds,
-It would have been filmed in teletubbies land to get those colours,
-The movie would better be a remake of "the old man and the sea" to avoid stuttering as soon as a building appears,
- The ending would be a Blue Screen of Death or a windows message box : fatal crash..

I've seen plenty of posts on this forum, screenshots, and videos from end users that suggest they're enjoying the game. Maybe they want better performance here and there, but they're at least able to experience and enjoy the game, finding value there. Maybe they're not the majority. Maybe they all have massive computers with tons of ram and the best graphics cards. Whatever. For them, the game works well enough that they can enjoy it. IE, it's a bad movie, but they like it - Battlefield LA.

So either some people enjoy the CloD movie you've described above and as such there's a market for that kind of movie (whether or not a profitable one is to be seen)

OR

They're lying about it and are just fans trying to support 1C. Which is entirely possible I suppose.

So are you calling them liars?

[bluescreen2]

Originally Posted by Oktoberfest

Guy, that's the worst bad faith I have seen so far !

Comparaison was good : you see a good trailer, go watch the movie and the movie sucked. Fine, that can happen (Battle LA gave me this impression for instance, but I think some people liked it). You had 100% of the product at the release of the movie, so you can have a pretty accurate judgement about the movie towards your personnal tests.

However, if Clodo was a movie, then:
- All the actors would be dubbed by a synthetizer and all of them (men and women) with the same voice,
- Special effects would be cancelled,
-The film would play at 5 frames per second ever 5 seconds,
-It would have been filmed in teletubbies land to get those colours,
-The movie would better be a remake of "the old man and the sea" to avoid stuttering as soon as a building appears,
- The ending would be a Blue Screen of Death or a windows message box : fatal crash..

lol. nice1

[avioni]

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

Not at all. We've been discussing the fact that the game needs fixing. Hundreds of people complaining is not everyone. People who complain or have issues are vocal about it. How many people who are content will create a forum account to log in and say "I'm fine with this." You're making the mistake of assuming that everyone with something to say on the subject is here on the forums saying it.

Everyone will benefit from fixes, for sure, but not everyone needs them to enjoy this game as it is right now.

Your 'movie' analogy suggests that no one can enjoy this product when that's clearly not true.

are you able to play the game without stutters?

i wonder what kind of hardware you got cause i see people with gtx580's getting 15fps and 25fps stuttering, others with 40's and still full of stuttering. on medium to low settings. since there is nothing more powerfull than a gtx580 for this game i wonder what you have. just mention your gpu as cpu doesnt really matter, the game will run the same on a 4.0ghz pentium D than on a core2quad or core i7 or amd. doesnt matter cause it only uses 1 core. doesnt matter if you own quad sli 580's cause it only uses one gpu. so people with the best possible system to run this game still have stutters. makes me wonder maybe you are from the future from a time where the game has already had all its patches and from where bad movies can be compared to broken games

[jibo]

will you rant on this game for weeks ?
you think this game is finished, fine, now go away

[avioni]

yes! i bought a $50 dollar ticket to rant all i want