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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-07-2011, 02:18 AM
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WoW, if there is a thread likely to invoke an instance of Godwin's law, this is it!

Nobody can seriously contest that the BoB was an important... well, 'turning point' in WWII. However, even if the battle had been lost by Britain, all hope wouldn't have been gone. With Churchill, Britain certainly wouldn't have given up and German High Command did only half-heartedly prepare for an invasion of England - they were still expecting, pretty seriously, to make peace with Britain.
And, as this wouldn't materialize, Germany would have to invade, challenging the huge Royal Navy and the well-prepared, well-motivated Home Defence. On top of this, there would be inadequate equipment on the German side - river barges as troop transport which capsize in all but the calmest seas, plus the Luftwaffe had already expended nearly half their Ju52 fleet over the Netherlands, so airborne assault troops would be hampered as well.

Additionally, as Churchill stated in his "we will fight on the beaches", at least part of the Royal navy would have carried on "beyond the seas".
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:19 AM
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If Britain hadn't won the BoB, America would still have been fine, and I'd still be driving a Porsche today. Or at least a KdF Wagen.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:35 AM
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BoB was huge, no doubt about it. If Great Britain "lost" the BoB, the government would have fallen and Churchill would be out of a job and GB would sue for peace. Remember Germany and Soviet Union were still allied at this point. No allied threat to Italy. Japan may have realized that they do not have to attack the USA. WW2 would have played much differently.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:49 AM
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Japan may have realized that they do not have to attack the USA. WW2 would have played much differently.

Because there wouldn't be an US oil embargo?
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:55 AM
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Because Japan could just get their oil from Majkop and Grozny once Germany had conquered the western half of the Soviet Union and Japan had conquered China?
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Old 04-07-2011, 04:13 AM
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Wouldn't that be like fighting themselves? Nazi-ism is about as far right as you can go. With Stalin being being the polar opposite (extreme left).
Besides, the vast majority of Germans were not Nazi's. That would be like saying all Americans are Republicans.
Socialism is not far right it on the left
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Old 04-07-2011, 05:09 AM
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Socialism is not far right it on the left
You know just because they were the "National Socialist Party" doesn't mean their politics were on the left. Ever heard of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea? Hint: It's not democratic.

They were fascists in policy and therefore on the far right.
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:18 AM
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Battle of Britain represents a fight between the free world Democracy and Nazi Germany.
This was actually quite a funny read, to say that GB fought for world democracy is somewhat of a funny notion considering that France and GB went to war because Poland was attacked, last time I looked in any history book Poland wasn't exactly liberated nor a democracy after May 8th 1945, but do correct me if I'm wiong here!!

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Old 04-07-2011, 07:09 AM
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Don't forget no invasion could have happened without the destruction of the Royal Navy too.. BoB was very important, but don't believe all the war propaganda.

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Please not politics we have enough with FM DM tracers stutters etc!!!!
Politics on game forums is always 100% win!

Get a bucket of salt, a group of kids, some angry adults.. every now and then give it a little stir... sit back and enjoy. Perfect recipe for an amusing thread

(but i'm a little disappointed at the lack such heated behaviour in this thread.. you have let me down! Lets have some rants, flaming and general mayhem!)

Edit: pls apply some of the above salt to this post

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Politics on game forums is always 100% win!

Get a bucket of salt, a group of kids, some angry adults.. every now and then give it a little stir... sit back and enjoy. Perfect recipe for an amusing thread

(but i'm a little disappointed at the lack such heated behaviour in this thread.. you have let me down! Lets have some rants, flaming and general mayhem!)

Edit: pls apply some of the above salt to this post
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