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Old 03-25-2011, 09:24 AM
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2. I'm cancelling my pre-order for now, and will get the game from Russia if and when they make the filter optional there.
Has there been any reports of how it performs with this famous russion version without the protection?

Igomir and the leaked vids look quite ok to me given the HW that was used.
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:25 AM
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And secondly, we doesen't know even how much that epileptic system is lowered overall performance, it maybe be 2%, who knows.

Hold on horses friends, wait until it is released here in UK next week.


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Old 03-25-2011, 09:33 AM
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You have no idea, about the meetings between Ubi and 1c so STFU your full of assumptions that you have no means of verifying!!!
There are many here who post about Ubi with only assumptions & no knowledge of the meetings either, do they have to STFU too? Why don't you tell them so? why is it that only those who question Luthier's explanation would have to STFU?

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3. I again emphasize that Oleg and Maddox Games would be much better off if they've published their product themselves online.

1C did publish it, they don't need the anti epileptic filter since it's evil Ubi who insisted on it if we have to believe what is said; but strangely, it is present in 1C version. Why?
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:37 AM
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i am canceling my order as well till this is solved

the only hopeful solution i see for this is that for the russian market they will make this filter optional (or remove it completely) and put a warning on the box etc ... we can then download it online from russia, or buy it from a russian amazone site etc..

one issue people havnt mentioned in this thread yet, those in danger of having epilepsy induced are most likely people who dont yet know they have the condition or that they are predisposed to it (since epileptics generally will be told to avoid anything that involves rapidly alternating bright lights etc..).secondly, even "normal" people who are not epileptic can have epilepsy (or migraine etc) induced in them if you just expose them long enough to severe enough of a visual irritation of the right type (be this from games or other flashing lights etc).

point being: with these pc games (and movies etc) it is not a bad thing to have the game creators and programmers being made aware of some of these issues so that they take account of it where possible (meaning we might have slightly uglier prop spin, rather then more realistic ones that have an increased risk to them). and in the same way games/movies are screened by national censors for content and age rating, games could be screened for "epilepsy inducing rating" so that the worst visual effects that might be a problem are toned down.

sadly this is not how the risk reduction is being implemented, ubi seems to have located some half baked idea and is blanket implementing on all its products, even if it kills the game itself. dont have any illusions, ubi will not do anything to solve this (given their previous total disregard of customer interests, even if it completely kills a game series). our only hope is for oleg's crew to find a work around for the russian market, and us somehow getting a hold of that product line

meanwhile cancel all your orders and hit ubi in the only place they care, the sales revenue. buying directly from oleg in russia probably also significantly increases oleg's profit margin on the sale, so its supporting him in trying to find a solution
is it possible to have an english menu in the russian version??
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:37 AM
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The stuttering and laggy framerates are sure to induce an epileptic seizure more-so than a smooth running game. Watching some of the videos coming out is making me weezy. Hopefully this is fixed. I shouldn't have to invest in a crazy system just to get past what this filter ultimately does to inhibit smooth performance. ARGH!! Damn your legal policies!!
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:46 AM
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I am epileptic and I applaud of decision form UBI
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:47 AM
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The stuttering and laggy framerates are sure to induce an epileptic seizure more-so than a smooth running game.
A very valid point that the money grabbing execs at UBI are too dim to understand.
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:50 AM
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I hope I will not get epilepsy because of UBI decision haha

and I agree, If we ever get epilepsy that would be from bad framerates before anything else...
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:57 AM
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I hope I will not get epilepsy because of UBI decision haha

and I agree, If we ever get epilepsy that would be from bad framerates before anything else...
Lol yes instead of a reduction in Color between frames we now have huge changes, this game is torture for people that suffer from epilepsy...
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:08 AM
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I'm keenly waiting for news on this as it seems, once-more, UBISOFT have gone out of there way to cripple another of their game releases and the Developer suffers!

I don't get why, after all the years of development, that 1C chose a Developer that most in the community saw as one that would or could make or break this product, with most thinking the 'break' would be more possible!

So-far I have not seen anything in the videos and release information that makes me think this has now been rush-released by Ubi and Russia (fortunately for us in the West) is getting to Beta test all the bugs before the 31st in Europe and by the time it reaches the US it should be running smoothly only if the statement by Oleg regarding patches depending on the success of the initial release isn't a forewarning that there may be little done after?

I hope that CoD gets it's success, those who are IL2 fans will, I am sure, be there for it, but it's like everything.....you need new blood to come into the market to make the sales figures work, and if the game is buggy, glitchy and problematic from the start, new buyers will be the ones writing poor reviews and killing future sales!

I applaud the epilepsy implementation, but to make it non-optional is ridiculous. It should be the users choice, but then again what can you say when an Historical Simulation has marketing decisions forced on it like the removal of the Historically accurate hakenkreuz!

I'm now cancelling my Steam order and waiting to see what it's like when it's released in the US, hopefully with a couple of patches in the Steam version implemented?

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