Poll regarding Steam users

[lwlooz]

Hello,

apart from the shills/false-flag operators , thanks for the information on steam use.

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

The benefit for me is vac, friends list, easy to use and reliable.

I don't see the point of a friends list when there is IRC, ICQ, Skype, MSN, Facebook and forums or knowing people.

The reason I don't like this news of Steamworks installation is that is by definition a bloated packaged. If I had to sign up somewhere for Anti-Cheat software to be run when I play on certain servers , I would do that.
But Steamworks is linked with the Store and all the social/achievement gimmicks I really see as useful for casual gaming , but don't think are at all useful for a sim like ours.

Apart from that I don't see why 1C wants to cut out potential customers on the accounts of being lazy. This whole Steamworks thing could be completely optional in my limited view.
If you choose to opt out and buy it somewhere else , you just wouldn't have the Steamworks features or couldn't play on some Steam-Enabled servers.
Who would be hurt by that? Steam-User and Non-Steam-Users happy.

If 1C wants to ship DLC , I think all other Digital Distribution retailers do that too, so I fail again to see the point of only going with Steam.

On another note I don't think you can prove Valve to have a monopoly or it's competitor would have already done so. But the fact that they use Steamworks to draw customers to their store is certainly evil and will hurt competition and innovation in the long run.
We might end up having Steam as a proprietary industry standard and all your games belong to Valve which nicely grants you a subscription

[Mick]

I just wanted to BUY CoD, I was even ready to have to be connected once and ONLY once, to activate the sim upon install, and then use MY game whenever I want WITHOUT having that Steam thingie somewhere in my PC ...

I did BUY IL2 way back in 2001, and then everything published by Oleg ... but I WON'T BUY Cod with that totally USELESS Steam thingie ...

[sallee]

I never particularly wanted Steam, I had to have it for some of the Total War series, but now I've got it it's just fine. it's never been a bother to me.

[Hellfire257]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Yes as was stated before 18% of a tiny insignificant forum.... compared to a huge very impressive tool (STEAM) with a huge user base.

Its time you took a peak outside the "Banana Forums" and realizes you need to do the maths LOL....how deluded can you get?

Feel free to post a poll on SAS or AAS then. Watch your mouth too. I've seen how many problems Steam has caused for the ARMA2 community (The group I'm in for example) - the majority being among the less PC competent people. However, we must not forget the strange method of running Combined Operations. I don't want to see the same happening to the IL-2 community.

Regarding the Maths, even a 2% loss is massive. Lets say 1C sell 1,000,000 units. Now, factor in the lost sales: what is 2% of 1,000,000? 20,000. 20,000 units at £30 of revenue each is £600,000 lost. So, that is nothing, of course. Would you turn down £600,000 of revenue?

If I was as rude as yourself, I would say you're deluded. However, I will refrain since I respect you.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Hellfire257

Feel free to post a poll on SAS or AAS then. Watch your mouth too. I've seen how many problems Steam has caused for the ARMA2 community (The group I'm in for example) - the majority being among the less PC competent people. However, we must not forget the strange method of running Combined Operations. I don't want to see the same happening to the IL-2 community.

Regarding the Maths, even a 2% loss is massive. Lets say 1C sell 1,000,000 units. Now, factor in the lost sales: what is 2% of 1,000,000? 20,000. 20,000 units at £30 of revenue each is £600,000 lost. So, that is nothing, of course. Would you turn down £600,000 of revenue?

If I was as rude as yourself, I would say you're deluded. However, I will refrain since I respect you.

Respect not sure if I deserve any after my last few post... I have been a bit outspoken with my replies.

I don't mean to be rude but i just can't get my head around the moaning on this forum.

[Hellfire257]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Respect not sure if I deserve any after my last few post... I have been a bit outspoken with my replies.

I don't mean to be rude but i just can't get my head around the moaning on this forum.

Its not me, I'll be buying it for sure. I'm just speaking for others.

[GnigruH]

Originally Posted by kabayo

@ zaui
well you can take your comment and stick it up your azz. People like you are a penny a doz. It is people like you that cause the rest of the world to lose thier freedom.
So take your comment and steam and shove it up your azz.

If you want your freedom back, go build yourself a hut and live there with no electricity and toilet paper. Quit your job, if you have one, and feed yourself with what you can hunt.
No trolling on internet forums either.

[JG52Krupi]

I just want to thank the last two poster for making my posts look be tad more articulate... cheers

[I/ZG52_HaDeS]

STEAM? No thanks.

If i will ever want to install a Spyware/Malware that monitors my activities like STEAM and also if i would like to LEASE a game Instead of Purchasing it and use it Wherever i like then I'll think about Steam.

Until then no thanks.

P.S.
I couldn't imagine how things for SoW/CoD could go worse than its ~5 years delay. I guess i was wrong. Well done

[Davy TASB]

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_HaDeS

STEAM? No thanks.

If i will ever want to install a Spyware/Malware that monitors my activities like STEAM and also if i would like to LEASE a game Instead of Purchasing it and use it Wherever i like then I'll think about Steam.

Even if you buy a boxed copy these days, you are still only "leasing" the product.
Read the EULAs.

I say Steam is OK but you should have an option to use Steam or another form of DRM.... as long as isn't GFWL.