Cliffs of Dover in 3D

Shtopor · #1 03-09-2011, 02:50 PM

Hi, guys, first post, long time lurker here. I was playing original IL2 and
up untill 2005 - 06 was friquent online flyer with 609 squad. Then things changed. Vosxod and Bogun are two guys whom I mostly enjoyed flying together. Hopefull they are still flying and having fun . Anyway, back to bussiness. Recently I bought 3D projector Acer H5360 and literally put together new PC:
Sandy Bridge 2500K (3.3Ghz clocked at 4.4)
Asus Motherboard P67 Pro
ATI HD 6950 (planning to softmode it to 6970)
8Gb RAM
But what I was really enjoyng is my new DLP 3D projector on 106" high Gain Screen (HP screen reflects more light then regular scren to offset loss of light due to glasses). Avatar in 3D looks like in IMAX, just stunning. This projector can be had for (get ready) 500 bucks when on sale at Amazon, I bought it at Future Shop in Toronto for that measly price. It works with DLP link ultraclear glasses(basically projector when in 120Hz mode inserts flashes which DLP link glasses understand and flip between left and right)that I bought 3 pices for 225 bucks from US site.
Projector is only capable to run at 1280X720P mode. But that is 1 million pixels for each eye per frame.PS3 games can be played too if you buy additional adapter(199 $). I have Track IR3 (I know its old but still works), Thrustmaster pedals
and no jostick yet (don't know what can be better then Microsoft's MS2 joystick?). Also I have G25 driving wheel for drive sims.
BUT, nothing, and I really mean it, can compare with how things look in 3D it
just another world. Chaps I do recommend it.
You can read about it at AVS forum here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1193088
One more thing, I watched Avatar 3D on 65" Panasonic TV (price tag 4000 $),
and feeling is that you are looking into aquarium (even at 65" it is too small for good 3D. This 500 bucks Projector wipes the floor with any 3d TV, for 2 major reasons:
1. Size DOES matter when you watch 3D
2. There is no crosstalk like with LCD 3D TV and less with plasma 3D TVs(plasma pixels are faster go from dark to color and back), but nothing beats
DLP as there is just mirrors )
I definitely recommend instead of 1920X1080 flat for both yes
go 1280X720 for each eye, which pixelwise is the same 2 million pixels for videocard to process, but outcome is perception of depth, which in flight sims
could help many to literally "feel" how far that bad guys is and what deflection is needed to hit him.
I hope this info will help those who want to see Cliiffs of Dover in gorgeous
3D.

Thee_oddball · #2 03-09-2011, 03:25 PM

you do relize that if we were all in a bar and you were telling us this we would be pummling you in a jealous rage!

cheers and enjoy your new rig

Prefontaine · #3 03-09-2011, 03:58 PM

uhh...advertise much?

Shtopor · #4 03-09-2011, 04:21 PM

Guys I am not bragging or trying to sell you anything, all I did was to tell you that QUALITY 3D is AFFORDABLE.
here is my expencess:
Acer projector - 500
screen - 250
projector mount (ceiling in my case) - 50
iz3d driver - 20 (for ATI card owners)
glasses - 60 (+ shipping)

PowerDVD10 software player (for Blu-rays and mp4, H264 and ....)

Here I am talking real 3D not those tiny 24" monitors (in 3d they look like 15inchers). It is just mind boggling how you can get IMAX qulity 3D at your home. Check youtube Acer h5360 and see for yourself what it looks like, you will be pleasantly surprised. I believe flghtsims and driving sims are absoulte winners in the case of 3D as that DOES help to win.

Shtopor · #5 03-09-2011, 04:25 PM

Here is a youtube video of ACer in 2D 120Hz refresh rate:
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...79&FORM=VIRE1#

Gribbers · #6 03-09-2011, 04:29 PM

You HAVE to upload video of that set up!!!

Shtopor · #7 03-09-2011, 04:43 PM

It is not me on that video, but I have a similar setup. I just don't understand when people buy 3d TVs for 2 grand (50") of inferior qulity, when you can get much better stuff for peanuts and enjoy it. I have 2 monitors, 24" and 28" and believe me this Acer
is just handsdown a winner. Besides you can play games in 2D in 120Hz mode which means you can see all 120 fps (of course if your videocard can pump that many FPSs).

Strike · #8 03-09-2011, 05:31 PM

Not trying to burst any bubbles here, but have you actually tried 3D over prolonged time?

Even if you can adjust the "depth" or "focus" of the 3D experience, it's a complete headache! The human brain is not designed to view things in this "created 3D" that we experience on our monitors/screens. I personally thought it was cool, like a gadget is cool. But I think 3D is a lot of "hype".

It seems everyone I know who has tried 3D, but doesn't actually own it can't stand it. Of course the guys who bought it defend it as if it were their own child, but those who were thinking about getting it or wondering what it's like have the same complaints:

-You feel fatigued after less than an hour (much like the normal fatigue of 12 hours straight looking at a normal screen without 3D)
-Eye irritation
-Unnatural
-Not fully supported by all games and various graphic effects (cause certain graphics like heat blurs etc to appear 2D, which makes it double)

Most "experts" or scientists already seem to be labeling 3D as "not the future" for tv/games.

Just wanted to add some balance to the pro/con and also to warn you. But remember; it's just MY personal (and friends) opinion.

It may be for you though, and even though I thought it was cool, it just wasn't "practical" to me.

Shtopor · #9 03-09-2011, 08:10 PM

I don't know what fatique you are talking about. I watched quite a few movies and never did I feel any fatique. Btw, most "experts" wear prescription glasses and yes 2 glasses on is a bit too much I guess. I do understand that everything new takes time to
accept, but keep in mind nature has made us see thing in stereo for a reason, and that is creatures who see in stereo and color have an advantage of survival higher then otherwise. Anyway to each his own. I do undertand that many do feel discomfort and apparently thouse are the ones who doesn't accept 3D. Luckily I am not one of them.
Each milage varies though.

julian265 · #10 03-09-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shtopor

Btw, most "experts" wear prescription glasses <snip>

Off topic

and lab coats too according to the stereotype!

On topic
I've seen about 4 hours of 3d in total, one movie at imax, one at home (just the red/cyan method), and didn't feel uncomfortable at all. That said, the clarity has to be better for a flight sim, and I'm not sure how I'd go with a 4+ hour session.