Friday update and discussions 2011-02-25

[Bakelit]

Originally Posted by airmalik

I suspect the pilots are small on purpose. Looking at the video of the cramped 109 cockpit it's obvious that a correctly sized pilot model would stick out of the sides of the cockpit since it won't 'squish' like a human body.

I did not know this was already known fact. I just read your explanation and that of zapatista and am not one who has read the forum on a regular basis the last years.

However I thought you can compensate for poke through in the "rigging" phase of a 3D animation, like giving tighter constraints ie not allowing full range of human movement.
But Olegs team knows first hand and I am content, now that I know the reason for undersize pilots.

So of course I did not want to be the 100th whiner to point it out. It just was obvious from first glance to me when seeing the pictures and so I commented.

So, sorry then.


PS: FG28 Kodiak, that does not look like a period photo to me at all. More like a clever composition render of 3D models. Check out the reflection of the humps over the machine guns. You never find that on a real Emil. And there are more clues ...

[Flying_Nutcase]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

Yes it is

Fantasic, thank you! (Moving heads)

And the calendar is a brilliant idea!!

[winny]

Here's a real 109 vs the ingame ones.. Pretty crude, sorry.



EDIT : I'm not trying trying to make a point, just provide a reference.

[David603]

Picture comparisons like this are not very useful unless you know how tall the pilot is. The average height of a man in 1940 was something like 5'7" or 5'8". If that guy in the real Messerschmitt is 5'8" then at 6'2" I wouldn't be able to close the canopy

I'm not even particularly tall compared to most men my age (21), so I would suspect the RL pic shows someone of around 6' height, while the CoD pilot is about 5'8".

[DB605]

Originally Posted by David603

Picture comparisons like this are not very useful unless you know how tall the pilot is. The average height of a man in 1940 was something like 5'7" or 5'8". If that guy in the real Messerschmitt is 5'8" then at 6'2" I wouldn't be able to close the canopy

I'm not even particularly tall compared to most men my age (21), so I would suspect the RL pic shows someone of around 6' height, while the CoD pilot is about 5'8".

I dont think height is the problem. It just looks like pilots are in too small scale overall. You can see it from this pic: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...0&d=1298644259
In real life pilot shoulders would be very close to sidewalls, in game it looks like 1/35 figure in 1/32 plane

[furbs]

Originally Posted by winny

Here's a real 109 vs the ingame ones.. Pretty crude, sorry.



EDIT : I'm not trying trying to make a point, just provide a reference.

But it does show the pilot posture problem quite well...the real pic shows the pilot in a "active" posture, leaning forward slightly, he looks like he is flying the plane. where as the COD pic he looks awkward and stiff backed, like a shop dummy has been just dropped in the cockpit.

Oleg already knows this and i hope it can be adressed soon as it does spoil the fantastic looking models and takes away immersion.

Im sure i wont even notice while flying missions but for taking great screen shots and movie makers it is a problem.

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by McHilt

What he's trying to point out is that the shadow from the stabilizer has a gap of sunlit metal where it should be shady given the fact that the stabilizer is fixed to the fuselage. Even if the sun was from 18.00 or 07.00 as you point out the shadows should be accordingly thrown, say long and more horizontal or, in case it's facing the sun, no shadow at all or maybe just a few inches under that surface. Here in this pic the sun is at between 14.00 or 11.00. and therefore the shadow should be completely solid at the base where the stabilizer is fixed to the body... it's not what it should be anyway, it's like they're offset and detached from the aft fuselage. (take a look at the above posted picture of the Bf's and notice the shadow, it's the same sunposition more or less)

Actually, the stabilizer is not fixed to the fuselage on this model, it tilts and so it has a small gap. Look at the shots again boys and be marveled. I do think however that the gap might be a bit much, but then again shadows are funny things both in life and in games.

[Peffi]

[QUOTE=Skoshi Tiger;228505] How many times does a developer have to say “The colour is dependent on the lighting conditions”? bla bla bla
QUOTE]

Question for Skoshi Tiger: How many times has Oleg said that "the color is dependent on the lighting conditions" ? Do you know how many times or are you just in a mood to criticize people that voice their honest opinion because you are whiner yourself?

[BadAim]

[QUOTE=Peffi;228663]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

How many times does a developer have to say “The colour is dependent on the lighting conditions”? bla bla bla
QUOTE]

Question for Skoshi Tiger: How many times has Oleg said that "the color is dependent on the lighting conditions" ? Do you know how many times or are you just in a mood to criticize people that voice their honest opinion because you are whiner yourself?

EXCELLENT! Now that's more like it, a beautiful example of a compound whine: whiner complaining about whiner complaining about whiners.

[FG28_Kodiak]

First, the comparing of a Emil with a Gustav is worthless.

Second other Pictures of Emils: