4.10 ai

[TeeJay82]

So im messing around in single player and no matter what plane i take, i get outrunned by AI

FULL REAL SETTINGS gear up, flaps up throttle 110%


EX: bf109e4 vs hurricane mk1c @ 500meters above ground

i fly bf and get massivly outflown by the hurricane (pitch auto) at level flight and rad closed followed by a 10-15degree climb

and then i take the hurricane mk1c at the same settings, 80%pitch, 100%mix rad closed and the 109 just farts away from me in level flight and in climb.

no matter what plane i fly i allways get outrun by the ai fighters, (same year production)

What am i doing wrong??

the only plane ive managed to keep in range with is the MIG3 41 vs the bf`s cr42s and 239`s (1941 campaign)

[DD_crash]

AI cheats doesnt overheat, black out and has perfect trim. They will also steal kills. At least you can steal theirs

[LoBiSoMeM]

... and they are "stupid" as any AI in the world.

Human opponents is the way to go: real and a true challenge. Don't waste much time in SP.

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[IceFire]

How good is your trim technique and how much effort do you make to keep your planes energy? The AI does cheat... but part of the difference is that people make mistakes, aren't efficient and are often not very smooth fliers. Not right at first anyways. Partly because we're only human we'll always have inefficiencies in the way that we fly whereas the AI is pretty much perfect in some respects.

Most AI cannot out run me whenever I have the faster plane... Bf109E-4 is definitely faster than both Mark I and Mark II Hurricanes. But if they catch me flat footed without energy I'll have to find a way to make it up fast because the AI is not forgiving in that respect.

If you can improve your technique against the AI you'll also find yourself faster than some of your human opponents online. Air races for me really made me think about how I fly. If everyone is flying exactly the same plane and takes off at the same time... why is it that a couple of people pull ahead and continue to open up the distance? They are better pilots and know how to get the best speed out of their plane. So there is room to improve and while the AI does cheat... it shouldn't stop you from pursuing the goal of getting better. It's a subtle art of flying fast... takes time, experience and technique. Just focus on being smooth.

[TinyTim]

Originally Posted by TeeJay82

EX: bf109e4 vs hurricane mk1c @ 500meters above ground

i fly bf and get massivly outflown by the hurricane

... then you must be doing something massively wrong. Bf 109E is a lot faster than the hurricane MkI at low altitudes, even the "cheating" AI can't make up for that.

Bf 109E can run at over 480 kph on the deck if memory serves me well while Hurricane manages barely over 400. Messerschmitt is also vastly superior in climb.

Are you sure he doesn't have initial energy advantage over you?

[TeeJay82]

Yeah.. about me doing something vastly wrong there is no doubt about

im trimming, trying this and that but in the end i allways get outrunned,out climbed, and out dived! does the AI dive with 100%pitch and 110%throttle?

[TeeJay82]

well... after a few more experiments i decided to cheat as well... 10%fuel and unlimited fuel cheat on :/ did the trick but i dont like it

[Jumoschwanz]

Ace AI Hurricanes do not run from bf109s in IL2 Sturmovik 4.10, and if they do they are easily run down and shot to pieces.

The AI bf109s will run away from a Hurri though and set up a pass.

It is the same with all AI aircraft in IL2, if they are slower than you they will turn and if they are faster they will B&Z.

If you can not catch and shoot down an AI Hurri with a 109E4 with equal fuel loads etc., then you must be a very inexperienced pilot.

[rga]

One on one, as long as you're flying faster plane, AI doesn't stand much chance. They're annoying, though. Getting on their six is never a problem. But AI has eyes in their tail, and they are master of handling aircraft at stall speed (as matter of fact, they don't stall). You're now facing a dilemma: keeping your speed, you will overshoot, chasing them, you will be slowed down. Players tend to go the second way, it's quite boring having AI on your 6, extending for 15 minutes before you can loop around to go head-on and do everything again.

When fighting more than 1 AI, be careful since AI is master of drag-and-bag. You slow down for the kill and another will get you from behind. Sometimes, when my speed advantage isn't very great (P-51 vs. FW-190 for example), AI tries even more sinister tactic: one AI drags you down low, the others keep climbing. You can get one AI and find yourself 1000m under 3 other FW-190 circling above )

Another no-go when fighting AI is steep climbing when AI is on your six. AI will get you in no time with their excellent deflection shooting. But I know, AI can master substained climb rate without bleeding energy. I can't because my handling at slow speed is terrible.