Friday 2010-12-31 Happy Hew Year Dev. update and Discussion

[Foo'bar]

Rivets are visible much enough, if not too much.

[Gourmand]

Originally Posted by jocko417

Yes, although IMO the red needs to be tweaked a bit. Looks more like SAAF than RAF as it is now:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ko417/1-11.jpg

versus

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ko417/2-10.jpg

perhaps?

+1
for me it's orange !!!
please put a red color fo RAF

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by Gourmand

+1
for me it's orange !!!
please put a red color fo RAF

There is too much red in the blue.

There are some high res WWII images here showing roundel colours. The pictures are dated, but to me the reds look fine, just as they do in this week's WIP.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8270787...7605269786717/

(from this main page)http://www.flickr.com/photos/8270787@N07/

example:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3321/...c9e6ba72_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3103/...4eb95a94_o.jpg


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[Sutts]

Some great information and first hand accounts regarding the Spit Mk1 just to get you in the mood and geared up for SoW.....

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit1vrs109e.html

[jocko417]

There are some high res WWII images here showing roundel colours. The pictures are dated, but to me the reds look fine, just as they do in this week's WIP.

Yes, but for every shot on that site containing a marking that looks 'orange' there is another that looks 'red'. Period photos have to be taken with a grain, the film quality, age/fading of paint, lighting conditions and time of day all play hell with colours.

The dull red in the RAF roundels used from 1937 to 1947 doesn't even exist anymore in any standard colour chart. There is no match in the last British colour standard published (BS381C) and the closest match in the US Federal Standard (FS 595B) is more of a pale "brick red".

I've studied RAF marking and finish colours for a few years due to an interest in skinning aircraft for flight simulations and most (but not all) of the colours used by the RAF during WW2 are "extinct" according to modern British and US colour standards. Only "closest" matches are provided. This makes it very difficult to say "It should look like this" and show an example

[The Kraken]

Originally Posted by kristorf

Also maybe the rivet opicity needs reducing by about 50%

Looks a bit heavy indeed, but don't forget it's no longer a question of layer opacity - rivets and other surface features will use bump or normal mapping, so the appearance will depend a lot on the lighting angle. It looks less prominent on most other screens.

[leggit]

Oleg....I admit this is one of those detail posts...and i half appolgise for it...In the shot with the 109 having been shot down we have a really nice pic of a town...it looks great (here's the but) but 95% of the house have a clay red roof. we have a lot of Slate (very dark grey) roofed properties (particually pre 1940) in the UK. The only reason i bring it up is it may actually help break up the sea of brownish-red...sorry for my first...i'm going to be anal about detail post: it is meant with the best intentions.

edit: quick example:
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-5086...oof-tiles.html

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by leggit

Oleg....I admit this is one of those detail posts...and i half appolgise for it...In the shot with the 109 having been shot down we have a really nice shot of a town...it looks great (here's the but) but 95% of the house have a clay red roof. we have a lot of Slate (very dark grey) roofed properties (particually pre 1940) in the UK. The only reason i bring it up is it may actually help break up the sea of brownish-red...sorry for my first...i'm going to be anal about detail post: it is meant with the best intentions.

Interesting...I also noticed a set of tennis courts, at least I think they were tennis courts on a severe slope. The good news is they must have some sort of computer placement for villages software to help avoid hand painting everything.

[Crunchieone]

Happy new year Oleg and crew

[leggit]

Originally Posted by Chivas

The good news is they must have some sort of computer placement for villages software to help avoid hand painting everything.

sometimes doing things by hand is a good thing.