In SOW please don't log the gunner position change because people tend to cheat.

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by II/JG54_Emil

Red statement is nonsense.
Everybody can do it.

The problem is it´s not serversided.
You have it logged in your eventlog when I switch gunner-positions, simple as that.

Really? I don't have IL2 installed anymore to test but this is interesting...

Can this not be deactivated from the dedicated server software side?


EDIT: How was the problem 'solved' if I may ask?

[I/ZG52_Gaga]

Originally Posted by II/JG54_Emil

Hm, I heard of it only yesterday.

Emil you just admited, you just found out.

Did you participate in

VEF1 (2002) or
VEF2,
VWF,
Chechz War,
CAD,
IL2 W,
IL2 Staligrand-N.I -Smolensk,
E.I.F.,
VW,
Airforce War,
Airforce War II,
IL2 WAR MEDITERRANEAN BATTLES ?

Cos i have ... and i know first hand.

Blue side doesn't have to cheat - we play a rigged game and we know it!

ThaNKS! for your time

Best Regards

[II/JG54_Emil]

Be it as it may.

I understand your perspective.

But saying mainly are exploiting this cheat is unprovable, I guess.

[Former_Older]

People who 'fly red' are cheaters while people who 'fly blue' would never do that, eh?

But even I know the technical issue exists. Wasn't this just recently (like last week!) discovered to be preventable by changing what the logfile records, Gaga? It can be set up to make the entry it wants to make but without the co-ords? This means sure, the cheater may see that you changed seats but not where you changed seats?

Or even display a custom message instead of co-ords? Like "Hi cheater"

I thought I read this over the weekend

[BLR_Tonin_fr]

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_Gaga

Blue side doesn't have to cheat - we play a rigged game and we know it!

ok I fly 50% red 50% blue...

Am I only one half of a cheater ?

Geeez !

[AndyJWest]

A ridiculous way to address a problem, even if it actually existed. A clear attempt to whine about IL-2 rather than comment on what SoW should do. If you have to resort to this sort of thing to complain about 'cheaters' and the game being 'rigged', I'd say you have a pretty poor case.

Total Nonsense.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Extremly competitive behavior + online team gaming = some of the most pathetic acts an human being can do.

It's impossible to prevent cheating. The only way is game/fly with normal people, who flies to have fun, not win some "important contest"...

All games have this. The problem isn't the exploits in game, it's the human nature: some of us are just plain stupid.

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

A ridiculous way to address a problem,

Total Nonsense.

you should know.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

A ridiculous way to address a problem, even if it actually existed. A clear attempt to whine about IL-2 rather than comment on what SoW should do. If you have to resort to this sort of thing to complain about 'cheaters' and the game being 'rigged', I'd say you have a pretty poor case.

Total Nonsense.

What's been nonsense for 10 years exactly.

The fact you can see a pilot move from seat to seat in the log file output and place the co-ordinates on the map you are flying to see where they are in the mission.

Or something else ?

In a Gagaesque way he's asking to plug the hole, and also threw in some conspiracy theory too simply troll at you.

[Former_Older]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

What's been nonsense for 10 years exactly.

The fact you can see a pilot move from seat to seat in the log file output and place the co-ordinates on the map you are flying to see where they are in the mission.

Or something else ?

In a Gagaesque way he's asking to plug the hole, and also threw in some conspiracy theory too simply troll at you.

Hi

Gaga's trolling adds nothing to the issue. let's agree to recognize that two issues are at hand:

1) gaga's blue vs red stance
2) cheating by using an exploit

There's two separate issues. While I believe that gaga brings up a valid 'cheating by exploit' issue, his red vs blue rhetoric is silly