Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

[Blackdog_kt]

Why are you guys jumping all over his throat? It's a language barrier thing at best and while some of his posts are weird, he also comments in a more straighforward fashion and posts interesting diagrams.

We're on the forum of a Russian developer as members of an international community, but some people seem to expect everyone to have a near perfect command of the English language. The best thing is when some lace their posts with alternating instances of "your" in the place of "you're", or "slang-speak" along the lines of "i should of" instead of "i should have", which makes a non-native speaker like me wonder if they do it on purpose, making mistakes due to being in a hurry or they just weren't that good in spelling to begin with

No offence, but if his posts annoyed me that much or i didn't have anything to respond to him, i'd simply bypass them. Maybe Oleg has to enforce a Russian speaking week from time to time and have us all post here through google translate for his team to point and laugh at, so that we can finally understand that lacking the ability to communicate in a certain language doesn't automatically detract from our right to say our piece or determine the actual validity of our opinion. Not funny when it happens to us i guess

By the way i can understand what he means just fine. He's talking about tube launched signal or illumination flares, the use of which was both historical and well documented. I don't know if the tube in the Spitfire cut-away diagram is for this purpose, but you can see a similar device on the screenshots of the SoW Wellington posted a few updates back. How do i manage to do it? I read his posts, then look at those pretty pictures he posts to fill in the blanks, the same ones that seem to annoy people so much

[Romanator21]

No, no, no Blackdog, it's much more than a language barrier. (You say a language barrier at best, but what is it at worst?)

It's not that he doesn't understand English - we still understand him very well - it's just that he posts nothing but meaningless blabber. Have you read his contributions? Ok, to be fair, he posts some nice links and pictures, but 90% of the time it's just...

Well, let's just say that the Spitfire does not have a "tube launcher", and is certainly not made of wood.

[Flying_Nutcase]

Does wounded crew code apply to all aircraft?

Looking good with AI wind effects.

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

Well, let's just say that the Spitfire does not have a "tube launcher"

He means the SFC (Signal Flare Chute). In the Spitfire the flare dispenser chute/chutes were situated just above the oxygen tanks. They are not generally fitted to modern warbirds (possibly for legal reasons ?) although the dispenser doors remain.

Here is a thread:

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=73978

As far as I know none of the Il2_1946 aircraft can drop flares even though many in real life (including the Spitfire) could do so.

Its a reasonable suggestion as an addon for TD, though its unclear how many people would ever actually use it.

[_RAAF_Smouch]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

...though its unclear how many people would ever actually use it.

Night missions to mark a target?

[ZaltysZ]

Originally Posted by _RAAF_Smouch

Night missions to mark a target?

Optimism The main usage would be to signal request for help or to signal "I want to land, don't shoot at me".

[Romanator21]

In my reference the signal flares are a six-pack in the very rear of the fuselage, and just before the empennage, firing upwards. The container behind the pilot was for a rubber dinghy.

[Hawker17]

This is a forum guys, everybody's free to contribute in discussions. The problem here is, there's some arrogance. Everybody's here for the same goal, so please help with technical assistance.

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Why are you guys jumping all over his throat? It's a language barrier thing at best and while some of his posts are weird, he also comments in a more straighforward fashion and posts interesting diagrams.

We're on the forum of a Russian developer as members of an international community, but some people seem to expect everyone to have a near perfect command of the English language. The best thing is when some lace their posts with alternating instances of "your" in the place of "you're", or "slang-speak" along the lines of "i should of" instead of "i should have", which makes a non-native speaker like me wonder if they do it on purpose, making mistakes due to being in a hurry or they just weren't that good in spelling to begin with

No offence, but if his posts annoyed me that much or i didn't have anything to respond to him, i'd simply bypass them. Maybe Oleg has to enforce a Russian speaking week from time to time and have us all post here through google translate for his team to point and laugh at, so that we can finally understand that lacking the ability to communicate in a certain language doesn't automatically detract from our right to say our piece or determine the actual validity of our opinion. Not funny when it happens to us i guess

By the way i can understand what he means just fine. He's talking about tube launched signal or illumination flares, the use of which was both historical and well documented. I don't know if the tube in the Spitfire cut-away diagram is for this purpose, but you can see a similar device on the screenshots of the SoW Wellington posted a few updates back. How do i manage to do it? I read his posts, then look at those pretty pictures he posts to fill in the blanks, the same ones that seem to annoy people so much

Thank you for calling me out Blackdog, but I insist that my problem is not a language barrier, I understand Xilon perfectly well. My problem is that the vast majority of his posts (at least the ones I've seen) are an insult to Oleg and his team, and often to the whole community. I hate to see people I respect insulted, so it gets me riled up.

But since my own opinion is that the lad is unstable, I should be applying the grace that I have been called to all the more liberally, so this will be my last post on the subject of Xilon. In the future I'll take out my frustration on Tree.....(just kidding! ).

P.S: I still wish you guys would stop quoting him though

[Blackdog_kt]

I didn't mean to point fingers specifically, it's just a general trend i've seen emerge from time to time and between different posters.

In fact, you being prevented from expressing your annoyance at his posts is just as bad as him being prevented from expressing his opinions.

What i'm trying to convey is that it's not only about what we say, but how we say it as well. If my command of the language allows me to dance around a bit and not step on someone's toes i will do it. That doesn't mean i can't express a disagreement though, i can just be a bit smooth about it and this also gives my ideas a better reception because the other guy won't get defensive.
However, if my command of the languge is insufficient to do that, i might come off as aggressive and insulting when i express a disagreement and people will jump on me

I'm not trying to be back-seat moderator here, i'm just trying to pacify things a bit because a lot of times we get valuable debates devolving into point-scoring matches between people. It's a shame when it happens, as most of the community is knowledgable and they have lots of good information to exhange, so if i can do anything to encourage increasing the signal-to-noise ratio without ruffling people's feathers i try and do something to that effect. Hope this is clear enough and not grounds for a misunderstanding, as the furthest thing from my intentions is to start arguments and troll people. Cheers