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[julian265]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

Yes, but thats not the point. When you are flying or driving offroad your brain knows that you are being bumped around inside the vehicle and the dash in front of you is relatively stable. What the effect in the video gives is the impression of the plane being bumped around you while you sit in comfy chair unaffected thus giving a disconnected feel.

It is something that just cannot be simulated properly with just visuals. Some people like the attempt, other people find it just wrong. So a choice between the two would be good.

Agreed, choice is good, unless it cancels out the effects of (server enabled) turbulence / wake when you're online.

However, the dash is certainly not stable for me (or stabilised by eyes/brain) whenever I'm off-road. Hell, it's not even stable coming up my driveway (which is pretty much off-road )

I can see what you're saying about the head position seeming to remain stable, whilst the plane bumps around (that is indeed true of sitting in front of a screen!). However, whether it's your head that is moving, or the plane that is moving, the relative movement is still the same - so it gets back to your statement about needing more than visuals to convince.

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by julian265

I can see what you're saying about the head position seeming to remain stable, whilst the plane bumps around (that is indeed true of sitting in front of a screen!). However, whether it's your head that is moving, or the plane that is moving, the relative movement is still the same - so it gets back to your statement about needing more than visuals to convince.

A better effect would be if the terrain moved around slightly but not as much as the air frame.

Turning the effects off is an essential option, as it was with the FFB gun shake, and stall flutter in IL2 which a lot of online players disable. Realistic or not is beside the point, some people simply will not put up with anything that interferes with shooting.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Maybe if we get one of those butt-kicker devices and strap it on our heads we'ld get a realistic vibration and our brains and eyes canh filter it our for us!

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

Turning the effects off is an essential option, as it was with the FFB gun shake, and stall flutter in IL2 which a lot of online players disable. Realistic or not is beside the point, some people simply will not put up with anything that interferes with shooting.

Real pilots didn't have an option to turn it off, and 'glued to the seat' really isn't something I'd like or want to see in IL2.

Reserve it for servers with easiest settings where newcomers fly.

[julian265]

Originally Posted by Penalty_Box

ohh sure resort to name calling.. thats what he wants

Or is it what you want?

[BadAim]

The ignore list is a wonderful tool.

[erco]

Originally Posted by hellbomber

ohh yeah were really believing your a certified RL spitfire pilot, freaking il2 pilot fanbois start to think their real aces, probably be telling their grand kids stories about their ww2 heroics, and their K/D ratios

you guys are a bunch of little wussie fanbois, all claiming to have flown through rough turbulence.. well i got news for you fanboigots, when the last time you through threw that turbulence with clear skies and big white puffy cumulus clouds, yeah i didnt think so, now pack your BS up and exit right off the fourm as you were just humiliated so bad you shall never show your face again

Got about 9,000 hours here, in everything from Stearmans to Pitts to DC-3s to T-34s to Lears to Hawkers to PA38s to Barons to 1900s to (are you getting the picture yet?) and when you're getting a real good shaking, you sure as hell can't compensate enough to read the panel- it's just a blur. Some of that shaking was in some beautifully clear air, and some in some mighty dark clouds, and just every so often, it was because I tried to do something the airplane didn't like. When, and if, I have the chance to fly the Spit, I'll be sure to fly into the buffet and get back to you on the accuracy of the SOW buffet/shake.

[jameson]

Originally Posted by erco

Got about 9,000 hours here, in everything from Stearmans to Pitts to DC-3s to T-34s to Lears to Hawkers to PA38s to Barons to 1900s to (are you getting the picture yet?) and when you're getting a real good shaking, you sure as hell can't compensate enough to read the panel- it's just a blur. Some of that shaking was in some beautifully clear air, and some in some mighty dark clouds, and just every so often, it was because I tried to do something the airplane didn't like. When, and if, I have the chance to fly the Spit, I'll be sure to fly into the buffet and get back to you on the accuracy of the SOW buffet/shake.

I quite sure 10mins of "Ace in a day" on Hellbomber's Xbox must top that. He'll shortly be complaining there's no P51 in SOW. We'll just have to face up to the fact that when SOW comes out, this level of debate (ok, I'm stretching the point!) will be the norm as the unwashed short trouser brigade wade in with their "I saw it on tv once, so it must be true" mentality.
Regards

[BigC208]

Looks to me that the vibration was just weather/turbulence related. Try shooting at a bomber while flying thru propwash and wingtip vortices. Now ad thermals and nasty convective weather and it will become a choir just to keep the plane right side up. At Erco, acording to the FAA you're supposed to keep those "mighty dark clouds 20 miles to your left or right....(hehe,8000hr freight dog here). If they're going to model the weather like that I hope they give us a sailplane at some point.

[Hunden]

Originally Posted by hellbomber

ohh yeah were really believing your a certified RL spitfire pilot, freaking il2 pilot fanbois start to think their real aces, probably be telling their grand kids stories about their ww2 heroics, and their K/D ratios

you guys are a bunch of little wussie fanbois, all claiming to have flown through rough turbulence.. well i got news for you fanboigots, when the last time you through threw that turbulence with clear skies and big white puffy cumulus clouds, yeah i didnt think so, now pack your BS up and exit right off the fourm as you were just humiliated so bad you shall never show your face again

LMAO again!!! and im not sure why.