IL-2 Random Crashes,ATI video card

[dduff442]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

I feel like I fell into the trap with ATi. It's really frustrating and completely random the crashes!

I run Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, Radeon 4890 Vapor-X, 8GB Corsair Ram in a Gigabyte EP35-DS4 Motherboard and a Quad 6600 G0 stepping O/C to 3Ghz.

I have Catalyst 10.2. I have disabled Vertex options in conf.ini. I dropped the ati dll file into the main IL2 folder. I also have the March 2008 (so long ago) .dll's in there.

FMB still crashes when it feels like it. When flying offline, I have no problems at-all. No graphics glitches, no problems.

As soon as I venture online (Dogfight Server at WC) I start wondering just how-long I will be around before I CTD.

I have noticed that it seems to be Snow or winter maps where I crash out most often, the usual syptom being the clouds start White and flicker to Black, eventually the ground (Snow) turns black or inverted colours and then I CTD.

I flew last-night for an hour over green fields, and not one probelm was encountered.

I bought the 4890 as it is a powerhouse when it comes to shifting graphics, and being the Vapor-X it runs quietly (which I prefer).

However, as IL2 is pretty much all I have on my PC for entertainment, I am seriously considering swapping back to Nvidia (275 or 285...if I can find one that doesn't sound like a hair dryer) as I cannot take much more of the frustration of never knowing if I will be wasting another gaming session with a CTD meaning another Disco to my record and another mission un-completed.

I know my mobo supports Crossfire, so Ati is 'native' to it, but it will run a single Nvidia if necessary.

So is there (unless this can be fixed) a quiet 275 or 285 card out there, and where is the complaints link to raise an issue with the driver at the ATI website?

Frustrated, MP

Have you checked your O/C on Prime95? I had an overclock that appeared stable but showed memory errors in stress testing. Strangely, this didn't cause obvious problems but random errors would be sure to result.

Seeing as you have Win-7 ultimate, why don't you try running il-2 in the Win XP virtual machine. It's supposedly much better than standard 'compatibility mode'

dduff

[Mysticpuma]

All tested and stressed. Runs cool and happy. Ran a 12-hour test and no problems. Also it runs fine offline, only online and in FMB I get crashes, whichafter reading lots of posts, seems to be a Memory leak in OpenGL that gives random crashes.

Should be simple to fix, if only ATI can be bothered?

Cheers, MP.

[brando]

I have the same issue with a 4890. The fix is to change to Excellent settings when using the FMB.
As I am a keen mission-builder I have set up a separate installation with a different conf.ini to use exclusively for mission-building. Once completed I just transfer the mission files (.mis & .properties) to the 'Perfect' installation. It only takes a few seconds to swap, and about 10 GB disc space to set up the 2nd installation. Preferably on a separate partition.

Overclocking is not the issue here: it's just IL-2 showing its age. My game runs glitch-free with a 12% system overclock, and so does the mission-builder if used as above

B

[FG28_Kodiak]

I had the same CTD's, but i think i solve it, never had this CTD's again with this workaround.

I use 10.2 in Opengl mode.
First make following changes to the conf.ini (Opengl Section)
Shadows=1 (or 2)
LandShading=3
Effects=1

Then start the Game, go to QMB, fly - crash the plane into ground or water - the font and menu problems disappear. After that your game should work normal.
The only problem you have you must join multiplayer games manually, you can't use hyperlobby etc.

[baronWastelan]

Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff

Listen guys after 10 years with ATI I have given up, I bought a NVIDIA EVGA GTX 260cor 216 896M ddr3 PCIE for $137.00. http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...VCD&cpc=VCDbsc

IL2 looks even more stuinning with NVIDIA...

and Im getting any where upwards from 40FPS to over 100FPS!!!Everything is maxed!!!

My sugestion drop the ATI cards they sux...

I love your solution. Now, if only I could buy the GTX 260 core 216 at $137.00.

I have a ATI HD 4870, i have all the random CDT's with no error messages etc.
If I switch from perfect mode I think they stop happening.
DLL's do nothing at all to prevent crashing I've tried them all.
I'm going to try 9.5 cat to see if that fixes it as others have suggested it will.
Oh and as a sub note, this is an ATI issue.
I'm never buying from them again. This crap has been supposedly being fixed since 2007 when the issue first cropped up.
A problem for the future is if SoW uses OpenGL like IL2 has ATI owners are screwed.
I hope not

[swiss]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

A problem for the future is if SoW uses OpenGL like IL2 has ATI owners are screwed.
I hope not

This problem occurs because we're now at OpenGl 4.1, Il2 was coded in OpenGl1.x if I remember correctly.

I somewhat understand ATI don't give a f*ck about this obsolete version.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

I have a ATI HD 4870, i have all the random CDT's with no error messages etc.
If I switch from perfect mode I think they stop happening.
DLL's do nothing at all to prevent crashing I've tried them all.
I'm going to try 9.5 cat to see if that fixes it as others have suggested it will.
Oh and as a sub note, this is an ATI issue.
I'm never buying from them again. This crap has been supposedly being fixed since 2007 when the issue first cropped up.
A problem for the future is if SoW uses OpenGL like IL2 has ATI owners are screwed.
I hope not

You are correct, buy an Nvidia card instead it's the best solution.

BTW: SoW is going to run under Dx

OK so Cat 9.5 nearly fucked my system guess its too old for my card.
How about if I switch to Direct X renderer in the menus will that fix the issues?
Also will i get anything like perfect mode?

[gprr]

Why don't you make proper cleaning and install latest,very good CAT 10.7?

gprr