Friday 2010-07-30 Dev. update and Discussions - Page 18

csThor · #**171** 08-04-2010, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Actually, if i'm not mistaken the hackencreuz is an inverted/mirror image of the other swastikas that are used in Finnish air force markings and various tribal insignia around the world. So, since it's not the exact same symbol there should be no problem

Actually there is. German law throws any kind of swastika into the same pot, NS swastika and finnish hakaristi are not kept separate. Ilya already said that the russian law is a "rubber law" that allows various ways of reading it. Which means the situation is as clear as stirred mud for 1C. I doubt they're going to risk a confrontation with the state so they'll play it safe and remove any swastika from the game.
I, too, don't suppose that 1C is going to change its marketing strategy so I guess there'll be one worldwide version (plus a russian one) and that's about it. And the smallest common denominator in that regard is german law which doesn't allow swastikas in a PC game.

WTE_Galway · #**172** 08-04-2010, 06:01 AM

Its only really the tail aircraft symbols that cause an issue.

The ground unit insignia such as the Afrika Korps one with the palm tree and hakenkreuz are too small to really be noticeable in a game.

Air Identification flags on tanks came later in the war. Also whilst many units did just use the NSDAP Flag or sometimes the Third Reich Battle Ensign the official Balkenkreuz Air Identification Flag shown below was also common and its historically accurate to use that on ground vehicles.

The Balkenkreuz Air Identification Flag was never flown as a flag but is commonly used in this role as a substitute for the NSDAP Flag by WWII recreation groups.

esmiol · #**173** 08-04-2010, 06:02 AM

if i remember it was the same problem in il2 no? swastika was not able to be show on the plane because of the german law.

but it is not something to debate.... because people who want swastika for historical reality on plane will just have to do a skin.

i suggest we stop speaking about that in this thread... we are clearly out of topic here

proton45 · #**174** 08-04-2010, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by esmiol

if i remember it was the same problem in il2 no? swastika was not able to be show on the plane because of the german law.

but it is not something to debate.... because people who want swastika for historical reality on plane will just have to do a skin.

i suggest we stop speaking about that in this thread... we are clearly out of topic here

Yea...you are right, its not a new issue.

But its still, waaaay closer to being on-topic then some of the posts here.

#**175** 08-04-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by nearmiss

Tree_UK is persistently pessimistic just put him on your ignore list.

Thats a bit unfair, im not pessimistic, im realistic, you told me i was pessimistic when i suggested that SOW would most likely be released in March 2010 back in March 2009, now on the scale of things i was being overly optimistic. Also I was told I was pessimistic and frankly rubbished by most on here when I announced that ubisoft were no longer involved in the project , I think now that most would agree that that is most certainly the case.
I am very pleased with the progress of SOW, and furthermore I simply love the work Oleg and team do, and I will gladly praise him for it all day long, but it does not mean I have to hang on his every word or believe everything he says regarding 'hinted' release dates like some here do. I think that it is good and healthy for debate to have a balance on the forums from all perspectives as long as we all believe in the product which i am certain we all do.