Must see vid: Heroes Over Europe Dev gives conference on how to not make a game

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuDPTw_j6zw

I found this to be the most insightful vid I've ever watched on the subject. Must see for fans of the genre. After watching this I kinda understand a lot of what Anton has said.

Enjoy.

Make sure to watch all seven parts..

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Gunna watch this today. Good find, thanks.

[dkwookie]

He could have saved himself a long talk by saying "we launched just after Bird Of Prey"

In all seriousness though that was very intersting. The original feature set looked very good, 26 missions, 20 co-op missions and all that multiplayer stuff. Seeing it gradually get cut was pretty sad. Even the north africa missions getting cut. That the one area that may have given it a reason worth playing for us BOP players.
I really dont understand why he doesnt mention BOP though. Its bad timing releasing that game a couple of weeks afer BOP and must have been a huge factor on sales. I bought HOE but only later on when it was reduced to £15. If BOP hadnt come out I probably would have bought HOE at launch for full RRP.
He also mentions that no WW2 flying game has ever sold over 1 million copies. I thought Blazing Angels 1 had sold over 1 million?

Anyway great vid. I think I will go and play HOE again just to get to those later missions he says have variety.
I wonder if we can steal that London map and add it as DLC for BOP

[winny]

The irony of it all is Ubisoft had the chance to publish BoP, they went with HOE.. Having never played it I can't comment on anything other than the reason i didn't buy it. BoP.

I'm hoping that Ubisoft will see the error of thier ways and chuck some money at the BoP sequel.

[BRIGGBOY]

Originally Posted by dkwookie

He could have saved himself a long talk by saying "we launched just after Bird Of Prey"

In all seriousness though that was very intersting. The original feature set looked very good, 26 missions, 20 co-op missions and all that multiplayer stuff. Seeing it gradually get cut was pretty sad. Even the north africa missions getting cut. That the one area that may have given it a reason worth playing for us BOP players.
I really dont understand why he doesnt mention BOP though. Its bad timing releasing that game a couple of weeks afer BOP and must have been a huge factor on sales. I bought HOE but only later on when it was reduced to £15. If BOP hadnt come out I probably would have bought HOE at launch for full RRP.
He also mentions that no WW2 flying game has ever sold over 1 million copies. I thought Blazing Angels 1 had sold over 1 million?

Anyway great vid. I think I will go and play HOE again just to get to those later missions he says have variety.
I wonder if we can steal that London map and add it as DLC for BOP

yes very interesting video i myself like you dk didnt buy it i rented it from lovefilm however if BOP hadnt been realeased i to would of proberly paid top whack for it just for the london map because that was the only decent part of the game and compared to the rest of the game the map with the best graphics. Yes if BOP could steal that map it would be awesome as i really enjoyed shooting down them Heinkels at night. And yes that sack of shit Blazing Angels did sell over a million copies I dont know why though.

[kozzm0]

Did he mention that if you want a flight simulator to be taken seriously, avoid Ubisoft if you can. Ubisoft has a terrible reputation in the genre. IL-2 could have stood on its own reputation without being damaged by Ubisoft's, but not many other sims could.

From the demo of Blazing Angels I saw it's one of the dumbest flight games imaginable, if 1 million people bought it they should be ashamed. It is part of the Hawx category of science-fiction/fantasy "air" combat.

[stealth finger]

Had it been half as good as HoP (any of you play that one) looking like that I wouldve bought both, hands down, no questions asked. After following it and seeing how the game was going (not played it but it seems more arcade that BA, that ace kill was the real killer for me) its not even worthy to be mentioned in the same breath. But really it shows the main problems nowadays, from the outset the publishers wanted too much for too little. Too much focus on making the game pretty and a few bad design choices really screwed it over and like he said, all but killed two companies in the process.

Originally Posted by kozzm0

From the demo of Blazing Angels I saw it's one of the dumbest flight games imaginable, if 1 million people bought it they should be ashamed. It is part of the Hawx category of science-fiction/fantasy "air" combat.

QFT. Hawx was such a let down its not even funny. When they first announced a Clancy flight sim i nearly wet my pants, when i heard the name one eyebrow raised and it was all downhill from there

[haitch40]

Originally Posted by stealth finger

Had it been half as good as HoP (any of you play that one) looking like that I wouldve bought both, hands down, no questions asked. After following it and seeing how the game was going (not played it but it seems more arcade that BA, that ace kill was the real killer for me) its not even worthy to be mentioned in the same breath. But really it shows the main problems nowadays, from the outset the publishers wanted too much for too little. Too much focus on making the game pretty and a few bad design choices really screwed it over and like he said, all but killed two companies in the process.



QFT. Hawx was such a let down its not even funny. When they first announced a Clancy flight sim i nearly wet my pants, when i heard the name one eyebrow raised and it was all downhill from there

yep i play hop
i was going to get hoe but the ace kill feature put me off

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[Shadowcorp]

Originally Posted by haitch40

yep i play hop
i was going to get hoe but the ace kill feature put me off

agreed the ace kill feature was the main reason i stayed away, that and i knew of a a few ps3 users who will forever occupy my block list; who were getting the game over BoP.
Plus ubisoft have no clue of how to support a multiplayer game on the next gen consoles every one of theirs i've played has been a dissappointment HAWX farcry blazing angels to name but a few