Released: Multi-Throttle Support for IL-2

[kimosabi]

Fool proof suits me perfect.

Thanks for all the time you spend on this, MikkOwl.

[Sokol1]

For us that use MikkOwl multi-throttle and MODs, and dont desire disable HUD to not show boring "selected/unselected engines" messages, go to folder:

\IL-2 Sturmovik-1946\Files\i18n

Open the file (with notepad):

hud_log_ru.properties

And erase these messages in right side:

"Engine: Engine1 Selected" etc.

Leave the entries in left side (EngineSelect1...)

EngineSelect1 Engine: Engine 1 Selected
EngineSelect1OFF Engine: Engine 1 Unselected
EngineSelect2 Engine: Engine 2 Selected
EngineSelect2OFF Engine: Engine 2 Unselected
EngineSelect3 Engine: Engine 3 Selected
EngineSelect3OFF Engine: Engine 3 Unselected
EngineSelect4 Engine: Engine 4 Selected
EngineSelect4OFF Engine: Engine 4 Unselected
EngineSelect5 Engine: Engine 5 Selected
EngineSelect5OFF Engine: Engine 5 Unselected
EngineSelect6 Engine: Engine 6 Selected
EngineSelect6OFF Engine: Engine 6 Unselected
EngineSelect7 Engine: Engine 7 Selected
EngineSelect7OFF Engine: Engine 7 Unselected
EngineSelect8 Engine: Engine 8 Selected
EngineSelect8OFF Engine: Engine 8 Unselected
EngineToggleAll Engine: Selection Toggled
EngineToggleLeft Engine: Left Engine(s) Selection Toggled
EngineToggleRight Engine: Right Engine(s) Selection Toggled

Now you see only % of power, ie 83%...

Sokol1

[MikkOwl]

Originally Posted by kimosabi

Fool proof suits me perfect.

Thanks for all the time you spend on this, MikkOwl.

It is becoming very tedious work now that I'm already finished with features but try to get 'user friendliness' into it, making sure people can use it. I developed a tool that scans EVERY axis on EVERY controller and detects if the user is moving them, then also figured out how to make the tool write the correct device and axis ID to the mikkonfig.ini.

I have so many extra G940 extra features only now though. Reversal bug fix, reversal bug fix AMOUNT for each throttle (and more axises too), option to use the two trims on the throttle as trims through my program as elevator/rudder trim, so that I can then process the axis data and remove the reversal bug, another option to set the range of movement of the trims in-game (they are way too sensitive if left at 100% range, impossible to trim perfectly to fly hands off).

Originally Posted by Sokol1

For us that use MikkOwl multi-throttle and MODs, and dont desire disable HUD to not show boring "selected/unselected engines" messages, go to folder:

\IL-2 Sturmovik-1946\Files\i18n

Open the file (with notepad):

hud_log_ru.properties

And erase these messages in right side:

"Engine: Engine1 Selected" etc.

Leave the entries in left side (EngineSelect1...)



Now you see only % of power, ie 83%...

Sokol1

Sokol, that is GREAT stuff. For the same reason and more, I fly without hudlog except when testing for development reasons. Maybe with tweaks like this I can get rid of everything unecessary and just leave some basic things.

[MikkOwl]

http://hem.bredband.net/mikko.artist...by_MikkOwl.zip

Version 3.2 uploaded now.

A major reworking and effort to make it much faster, easier to set up and to understand, as well as special G940 support, defines this version.

- Added .ini free configuration of throttles. G940 recieved automatic configuration.
- Added 'reversal bug' fix for G940 throttles, and optionally also of elevator + rudder trims (which also have an optional range reduction to avoid overly sensitive trimming).
- Added ability to tweak G940 throttle output to match each other's position in-game if not matching.
- Cleaned up, reorganized and renamed files and folders to fool-proof even more.
- Changed launcher to display a pop-up with instructions, and clicking "OK" to enable instead of "ALT-G".
- Removed fuel mixture and radiator support (troublesome and not fool-proof; never heard of anyone using it either).

And I just remembered, I also tweaked some of the scanning intervals that might make it work better on a select few systems.

I can always add fuel mix and radiator back later if there's any demand for it. But for now, making all these things work in a more user friendly, auto-set up kind of way was complicated and time consuming enough - I was afraid I would simply not get this update out at all if I tried to include those features, due to being 'buried' with the amount things that needed to be updated.

[Sokol1]

MikkOwl,

A small request, as I fly many planes in IL-2, bombers, fighters, is possible include
WEP in end of throttle course, to help in old (game) planes like Spit?

I use this feature with NewView, but have this in only one software is nice.

Another useful feature: one joy button to press F10, to Teamspeak Push to Talk.

Sokol1

[Azimech]

Try JoyToKey.

http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key...%20Version.htm

I use buttons 3 & 4 on my joystick to zoom in & out, it changes FOV with 25 steps per second. Really terrific program.

[MikkOwl]

Originally Posted by Sokol1

MikkOwl,

A small request, as I fly many planes in IL-2, bombers, fighters, is possible include
WEP in end of throttle course, to help in old (game) planes like Spit?

I use this feature with NewView, but have this in only one software is nice.

Another useful feature: one joy button to press F10, to Teamspeak Push to Talk.

Sokol1

It's certainly possible, but be advised that it doesn't know if you are flying or not, and all it could do is press the 'toggle WEP' key when you are within a certain top range of your throttle. It could get out of sync. The F10 key is also doable, easily.

However, it makes little sense to try to implement this into the software, because few people have the same requirements and preferences for keybinds for those functions.

As mentioned, there's tons of software you can use, including probably the basic profiler software for your controller, to just bind the joystick button to "F10" (I did the same with my pinky button on the G940, to talk on Teamspeak 2). As for the wep when throttle range, your profiler software might support this. Otherwise it is a bit trickier. In real life in spits, they could not run WEP with open throttle, had to reduce it a bit. Engines and planes are different and WEP affects them in different ways (Fw 190 D9 I think only really increases fuel consumption a lot when using it for many minutes, but after a set amount of minutes pass, the heat starts going up unreasonably). I suggest that you put your WEP button somewhere convenient, maybe even as obvious as where your weapon controls are on the main joystick (for the thumb etc). Easy to reach.

Originally Posted by Azimech

Try JoyToKey.

http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key...%20Version.htm

I use buttons 3 & 4 on my joystick to zoom in & out, it changes FOV with 25 steps per second. Really terrific program.

Do you have the ability to make 'smooth' change in fov levels? Wings of Prey had this and it is such a nicer experience than the choppy experience of IL-2. The 6DoF mod 2.0 for IL-2 somehow provides fov change on an axis (leaning forward enough) and that looks great, but I can't fly like that. I'd like to have it button related somehow...

[Azimech]

Yes, I have the ability to change the FOV in a smooth way.

Download JoyToKey, here is my Config file:

[General]
FileVersion=37
NumberOfJoysticks=2
Use8Axes=0
UseDiagonalInput=0
UsePOV=0
Threshold=0
KeySendMode=0
[Joystick 1]
Axis1n=0
Axis1p=0
Axis2n=0
Axis2p=0
Axis3n=0
Axis3p=0
Axis4n=0
Axis4p=0
Axis5n=0
Axis5p=0
Axis6n=0
Axis6p=0
Axis7n=0
Axis7p=0
Axis8n=0
Axis8p=0
POV1-1=0
POV1-2=0
POV1-3=0
POV1-4=0
POV2-1=0
POV2-2=0
POV2-3=0
POV2-4=0
Up-Right=0
Up- Left=0
Dn- Left=0
Dn-Right=0
Button01=0
Button02=0
Button03=1, 4F:00:00, 25
Button04=1, 49:00:00, 25
Button05=0
Button06=0
Button07=0
Button08=0
Button09=0
Button10=0
Button11=0
Button12=0
Button13=0
Button14=0
Button15=0
Button16=0
Button17=0
Button18=0
Button19=0
Button20=0
Button21=0
Button22=0
Button23=0
Button24=0
Button25=0
Button26=0
Button27=0
Button28=0
Button29=0
Button30=0
Button31=0
Button32=0

(END OF FILE)

What this says is that it polls button 3, 25 times per second, and then inputs anywhere the letter "O" (zoom out), which in IL2 is configured to Increase Field of View.
Button 4 is inputs the letter "I" again 25 times per second, which gives Decrease Field of View.

[Sokol1]

MikkOwl,

Thanks for explain, I think that implement these buttons are easy. Sorry.

As I use NewView to smooth Pan View, I continue use this for Spit WEP in end of throttle course.
My HOTAS is old gameport "USBified", dont have programming software, for Teamspeak PTT I use another software, SVMapper - that allow use toggles switchs, with one mapped function in press and another in release.

Do you have the ability to make 'smooth' change in fov levels?

Newview allow bind FOV change in axis, too.

BTW - Tested your new multi-throttle version, 3.2. Work fine.

My only problem is related Alt+E to easy the program, for years I use
Alt+E to start engine (cause is near to Alt+1, Alt+2, that previous used to select engines).
Now every time I hit refly, I unconscious end MikkOw Multi-Throttle when try start engines . now I use with Alt+I - (Alt is "swtich cover"), but my brain...
But it is a personal matter, solve with Alt+Tab.

BTW- Just to inform: Flying single engine aircraft (ie fighters) using Multi-Throttle (without axis assigned to power in IL-2 Controls>HOTAS) work like when you use one axis, or maybe better, cause with Multi-Throttle I have linear 1/2% increments in power.

Thank you.

Sokol1

[Ghost33]

Hi MikkOwl, I have something wonky going on with my throttles sometimes, If I take one throttle while both are at 0% and bring it up it works fine but if I park it at 100% and then bring the other throttle up, sometimes (most, but not all) it takes that one parked at 100% and brings it back down to just bring it up again. its like both throttles on the g940 only run one in game, but if I move them together they then separate again and I get left right movement respectively.

Seems to only do this when both are at 0% or both at 100%

Very odd, and Ideas, suggestions?

Thanks, Ghost33