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Old 12-26-2009, 07:27 AM
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I agree 100% with "drafting" - there IS room on one's shelf for BOTH WoP and SoW!
I have bought virtually every WWII combat flight sim since the launch of CFS 1 (back in 199 ... with the exception of about 4 or so (definite) arcade-type sims.

I have bought CFS 1,2 & 3, B-17 Flying Fortress, European Air War, Battle of Britain (Rowan), Fighter Squadron/Screamin' Demons, Jane's WWII Fighters and obviously the original IL-2 Sturmovik and all of its add-on's.
I must say, each of these sims has had their strong and weak points ... and that's what's been so interesting.
Clearly IL-2 and its add-on's "raised the bar" and remain the no. 1 in my opinion.
However, I also have fond memories of the great immersion that I used to experience with Jane's WWII Fighters (the missions were varied and the effects/sounds were great!).

I will purchase WoP (hopefully on DVD!!! - our bandwidth down here in South Africa is expensive and relatively slow) - I think that WoP's graphics are "jaw-dropping" - the cities especially (however I'm sure that Olga will do a superb job of SoW's! Hehe!), small touches like the grime around the edges of the cockpit perspex frames, the smoke hanging over fires, the light shadows within the cockpits, the flame and explosion effects and the general "atmospherics" ... they're all brilliant.

It goes without saying that I will be getting SoW as soon as it is published later next year (15 Sept - Battle of Britain Day, perhaps?) and I'm sure that Oleg and his team will once again "raise the bar" to a level that we never ever imagined!

Olrg, if you are reading this - thank you for providing me with so much pleasure - a day of my life does not go by without me either "flying " Il-2/1946 or at least checking on all the Il-2/1946 forums for news! It's a massive part of my life (and I'm 57 years old!).
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:51 AM
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I agree 100% with "drafting" - there IS room on one's shelf for BOTH WoP and SoW!
I have bought virtually every WWII combat flight sim since the launch of CFS 1 (back in 199 ... with the exception of about 4 or so (definite) arcade-type sims.

I have bought CFS 1,2 & 3, B-17 Flying Fortress, European Air War, Battle of Britain (Rowan), Fighter Squadron/Screamin' Demons, Jane's WWII Fighters and obviously the original IL-2 Sturmovik and all of its add-on's.
I must say, each of these sims has had their strong and weak points ... and that's what's been so interesting.
Clearly IL-2 and its add-on's "raised the bar" and remain the no. 1 in my opinion.
However, I also have fond memories of the great immersion that I used to experience with Jane's WWII Fighters (the missions were varied and the effects/sounds were great!).

I will purchase WoP (hopefully on DVD!!! - our bandwidth down here in South Africa is expensive and relatively slow) - I think that WoP's graphics are "jaw-dropping" - the cities especially (however I'm sure that Olga will do a superb job of SoW's! Hehe!), small touches like the grime around the edges of the cockpit perspex frames, the smoke hanging over fires, the light shadows within the cockpits, the flame and explosion effects and the general "atmospherics" ... they're all brilliant.

It goes without saying that I will be getting SoW as soon as it is published later next year (15 Sept - Battle of Britain Day, perhaps?) and I'm sure that Oleg and his team will once again "raise the bar" to a level that we never ever imagined!

Olrg, if you are reading this - thank you for providing me with so much pleasure - a day of my life does not go by without me either "flying " Il-2/1946 or at least checking on all the Il-2/1946 forums for news! It's a massive part of my life (and I'm 57 years old!).
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Old 12-26-2009, 08:01 AM
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Maybe some time you will find out that there is a difference between something looking great and something looking realistic.

Hopefully your discovery will not turn out like this:



I'm 100% with Chivas on this:
WoP is a game with nice graphics and hopefully attracts some people to the flightsim-genre. And when they want something more realistic in every aspect, they can go for BoB. That said, I don't think that it is "Watchout Oleg!".
Tbh ive to agree with the people who think WOP *looks* realistic, it's probably as far away from a sim you can get but it does look a hell of a lot realistic in an artistic and graphical manner over both IL2 and the current SoW screens.

I don't get your fanboyism Feurfalke, keep saying people itch and whine about slightest thing while you've to stand up and defend SoW all the time? It might be work in progress however we have yet to be proved it will LOOK more realistic, we already know it will play as a simulator...but it's maybe time for a real demonstration soon?

And yes you're absolutely right that hollywood graphics or effect dosnt equal realism in any way, that said i've yet to see more life like flight sim environments than in WoP...but on the other hand i couldn't care less i play it for the realism in the air not on the ground even if it has some impact.

Time to stop bitching and enjoy the holidays,
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Old 12-26-2009, 09:00 AM
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Some prefer the "realism" of 'Saving private Rhyan' some prefer the one in 'Soap operas'.

Some prefer the simulations of a instrumental flying by being religulous to 'the numbers' other start laughing at the idea of IFR as a flight experience having the feeling they miss all what flying is without the real enviroment.

Some manage something inbetween...

All is relative... at least since Enstein appeared to the scene.
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Old 12-26-2009, 09:06 AM
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Anton the Dev for Wings of Prey is an absolute stand up fellow. We can only PRAY for his success so that we as a community can (eventually) have two competing games.

Each driving the other FORWARD - (to our advantage as serious flight simmers).

Here is some news for you fanbois....
WoP has already affected SoW development in a POSITIVE WAY because it has RAISED THE BAR for both terrain representation/scale and engine performance.

BE SURE!


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Old 12-26-2009, 11:59 AM
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Here's a new short teaser. Yeah, the lighting is movie-like and the planes are not up to SoW standard, but the game sure looks amazing:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/de...wings-of/60321

EDIT: Oops, I discovered this is an old teaser actually...

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Old 12-26-2009, 12:18 PM
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Ok, if you guys keep posting those WoP shots I'm afraid I'll have to buy it.

How does the game/physics feel compared to 1946 BTW? If WoP shows to be as realistic a HAWX or something there will be hell to pay.
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:00 PM
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I will purchase WoP (hopefully on DVD!!! - our bandwidth down here in South Africa is expensive and relatively slow)
Good luck with that. I was reading a post by one of the devs at simHQ saying they plan to mostly distribute the sim by d/l, with a very limited and possible regional DVD release. If we're lucky they may do a DVD purchase directly from them as I would also rather have a hard copy myself.

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Old 12-26-2009, 01:12 PM
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just spotted this...WOW...
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Old 12-26-2009, 02:44 PM
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Ok, if you guys keep posting those WoP shots I'm afraid I'll have to buy it.

How does the game/physics feel compared to 1946 BTW? If WoP shows to be as realistic a HAWX or something there will be hell to pay.
Well... let's put it this way... I am a bad shooter in Il-2 1946 and I shoot the same in WoP

On ground you cant see squat if you don't fly by the book. You really need to be familiar with the terrain a bit otherwise you miss all targets... visually, not a chance to hit them.


P-51 is a PITA to fly especially with those rockets... snap-stalls like crazy.

You do have a lot of ammo in realistic (in simulation is bad due to viewing distance and the milky atmosphere... at least on britain map)




To be more clear... IL-2 1946 can be tone down in realism a heck lot more than WoP at simulation mode. In fact WoP seems very little behind to IL-2 in some fine aspects of flying but because the enviroment is so much more life like is hard to "digitize".

Oh... WoP has support for Freetrack or TrackIR by default... 6DoF... and whats even more funny... in Spitfire you get the same "bug" while looking back to one side like in IL-2 1946 with 6DoF Mod (praise sHr once more, S!)



The radio comms are nice too... pitty you can't ask for instructions etc... but is nice to hear the tower asking for status and the pilot saying... "come again, your breaking up..."


P.S. For ppl in South Africa etc with small bandwith... the demo of the game is available in torrent download which works better in such small bandwidth and can be resumed anytime you want... the demo contains the full game but you have to purchase it online to enable it full... I guess is a good option.

later edit..

a nice ingame movie



later later edit... the famous 6DoF bug


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