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Old 11-13-2009, 12:22 PM
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Default Hydra is coming!!

check this article out over at Tech Report. I wonder if such a motherboard would be worthwhile for a combat sim like Sow_BoB? Perhaps with three PCI-e slots one could go with SLI and PhysX? No mention of how much the Hydra chip will add to the cost of a mobo.
here's the link: http://techreport.com/articles.x/17934
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:39 PM
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Default This is big IF it works

That would be cool if they could pull it off . ..

It would be the best, being able to mix and match video cards. I do hope this becomes a mobo standard . . .



If BOB SOW came out next summer, though I wouldn't build a machine with Hydra, unless reviews are very favorable, and Oleg n Co say its supported. Its too new . . . I'd wait until 2nd or later generations (usually I wait longer)








The review said it worked good, and if they get drivers compatibility and direct X support that'd be something.

And its funny because if this is adopted, it would put a dent in Nvidia, since most people will buy a motherboard if you can dual different types of videocards w/out issues. SLI and Crossfire would be phased out.

It would be awesome for me, because those motherboards would be sold for cheap!



Hopefully they can fix the issues outlined in the article and it works like a charm.

Seems that Nvidia tried doing what Hyprda does and couldn't get it to work:

"very ambitious," "an enormous technological challenge," a position the firm (Nvidia) has rather curiously communicated at every opportunity. "







I kind of noticed a red flag, because the Lucid VP Belz "seemed surprised when he asked what percentage of prospective Hydra buyers might wish to run Windows 7 immediately and we answered, "Uhh... 99%."

It wasn't no mystery that Vista sucked, and that Windows 7 wasn't a sudden thing . . .





The dependence on fixing issues on per game basis is good attention to quality, but also a double edged sword, you're left at the mercy of game developers and video card manufacturers, need to coordinate with both to get something working.



Say a game was released and sold 7 million copies in 24 hours . . . It works on all systems but the Hydra causes glitches / aritfacts and sometimes crash to desktops.

They try to work with Game company that sold 7 million but they're busy selling, Game co drags its feet. It easier to post on the website, has issues with Hydra system, we working on it . . . and fix it later. Bad customer service but a reality sometimes . . .

They work with Nvidea and ATI, but Nvidea realizes a chance to ding the competition. So Nvidea drags its feet too.

Then the most popular game can't be played on Hydra based systems. And some can't wait 3-4 mo's for the fix. Then the whiners come out and even though 5 months later its all fixed, Hydra's got a bad name.



Granted this is only because Hydra is new and not industry standard, if it becomes one like SLI, the games will have to support it . . .





What sucks for Lucid is if this takes off and becomes a market standard, the big dogs like Intel and AMD will realize this the way to go and make their own version of chipsets that do what Hydra does . . .
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Old 11-13-2009, 08:11 PM
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S~ Hiro,
I'm with you on the wait-and-see plan. I'd have to read several more tech reviews form other sources, and with Lucid's chip being used on more than one mobo. As for Intel and others getting into the mix, Intel already seems to have a relationship with Lucid. I read that a few months back somewhere: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25...ts-lucid-hydra
More such info from around the web:
http://hothardware.com/Articles/Luci...vealed/?page=1

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...e=expert&pid=1
it looks hopeful at least.
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Old 11-13-2009, 09:56 PM
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S~ Hiro,
I'm with you on the wait-and-see plan. I'd have to read several more tech reviews form other sources, and with Lucid's chip being used on more than one mobo. As for Intel and others getting into the mix, Intel already seems to have a relationship with Lucid. I read that a few months back somewhere: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25...ts-lucid-hydra
More such info from around the web:
http://hothardware.com/Articles/Luci...vealed/?page=1

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...e=expert&pid=1
it looks hopeful at least.
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I do like the idea.

In a world where ATI is rapidly becoming Il*2 incompatible, nVidia says "no CUDA with non-nVidia GPUs aboard", and Intel doesn't yet have a GPU you would trust with a modern game, it ain't going to happen.

I wish someone would prove me wrong, but I'm not even thinking about holding my breath.
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Old 11-14-2009, 12:14 AM
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Default Nvidia promises to be good

I.K.
I understand the pessimism. Where there's money to be made there arecut-throats to make it, and to screw the other guy from making it. But this little story holds just a tiny bit of hope:
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/17962
So, might as well be hopeful.
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I do like the idea.

In a world where ATI is rapidly becoming Il*2 incompatible, nVidia says "no CUDA with non-nVidia GPUs aboard", and Intel doesn't yet have a GPU you would trust with a modern game, it ain't going to happen.

I wish someone would prove me wrong, but I'm not even thinking about holding my breath.
What are u talking about??

I build rigs for other IL2 lovers, the last year Ati only inside. NO issues at all, if u know some tiny tweaks.

IL2 and ATi go very well together. Be sure!
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Old 11-14-2009, 04:15 PM
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What are u talking about??
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=9067

Among others.

I'm currently on the default Vista driver, before that on later drivers, I was getting all sorts of problems in IL*2, now I get the flashing coloured artefacts when guns fire, but that's about all.
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