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Old 10-11-2009, 01:58 PM
RCfalcon RCfalcon is offline
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Yeah, the americans are way better at that . P-40, P-47, P51, P-38 etc . Why cant they just give them cool names ? Just call them jug, mustang, lightning.. get rid of those lame numbers. Thats so old fashioned
Yes we are =P

Speaking of the P-38. Where is it? I want my Lightning.

...and the Horton flying wing, but I know that's a longshot. lol
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Old 10-11-2009, 07:36 PM
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Yeah, I know the whole point of that project was a jet fighter that could be made relatively easy. They probably had metal or something over the parts that would be directly exposed to the heat from the jet, or something.

I've always wondered how the pilots got out of that thing. Seems like it would be a bitch to bail out of...with the engine right behind the cockpit and all.

*pops off the canopy and starts to climb out* "Im going to make it, Im going to make i---" *gets sucked into the engine*

I think I heard they had some kind of mechanism to jettison the seat away from the plane, but Im not sure. Not like Hitler was ever very concerned about employee safety.
The 162 was indeed one of the first aircraft to use rocket ejector seats, due to the issue with the fuselage-mounted turbojet.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:18 PM
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The Russian invasion would've worked out better if he went with Operation Sea Lion beforehand.
he did try...
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:23 PM
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he did try...
And failed.
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:16 PM
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Yeah, I know the whole point of that project was a jet fighter that could be made relatively easy. They probably had metal or something over the parts that would be directly exposed to the heat from the jet, or something.

I've always wondered how the pilots got out of that thing. Seems like it would be a bitch to bail out of...with the engine right behind the cockpit and all.

*pops off the canopy and starts to climb out* "Im going to make it, Im going to make i---" *gets sucked into the engine*

I think I heard they had some kind of mechanism to jettison the seat away from the plane, but Im not sure. Not like Hitler was ever very concerned about employee safety.
They had ejector seats, I think.
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:39 PM
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Apparently if they had continued bombing British airfields instead of suddenly changing to bombing the cities, the RAF would have eventually become powerless and Germany could have invaded Britain. But they didn't
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:36 AM
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he did try...
The shift from military to civilian targets killed the chance for Sea Lion. If the Germans kept the focus on the RAF combined with the U-boat press a ground war in Great Britian would've been a quick win for the Germans.

Which in turn would've prevented operation Torch, thus keeping the full Nazi resources focused in Russia, rather than in three directions.
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:30 AM
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The shift from military to civilian targets killed the chance for Sea Lion. If the Germans kept the focus on the RAF combined with the U-boat press a ground war in Great Britian would've been a quick win for the Germans.

Which in turn would've prevented operation Torch, thus keeping the full Nazi resources focused in Russia, rather than in three directions.
Many people do not realize that Hitler could have easily done this. If he had some decent common sense he could have won the war.
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:23 AM
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The funny thing about the 162 being the "Hitler Youth Fighter" was that it wound up being a bitch to fly and needed an experienced pilot, which was really counter-productive to the whole cheap & expendable thing!

I'm not sure if Hitler could have won the war even if he pulled off Sea Lion. Unless I'm seriously mistaken, there weren't that many German soldiers waiting on the French coast by the time Russia was invaded. Probably far fewer than would have been needed to garrison Britain! The only real advantage Hitler would have gained from taking England would be protection from bombers. (Unless the presence of the Germans in the UK scared the Irish into the arms of the Allies) This is providing of course that the US still entered the war.

Also, in the real war, Germany didn't come near to wiping out the USSR. Even if they took Moscow, the Wehrmacht would still have only held 10% or so of Russian territory. And the Russians had that huge army in the east to protect against Japanese attack. They could have sent that into battle if the Germans had advanced any farther.

I think taking England would have certainly prolonged the war, but Hitler was pretty much screwed the moment he decided to f**k with the Russkies. You can't take on a country with that much more resources and people with much hope of winning.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:17 AM
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Many people do not realize that Hitler could have easily done this. If he had some decent common sense he could have won the war.
If he had some decent common sense? Dude, that guy was a genius. Guess he just lost track of it somewhere.
(No, I'm not pro-Hitler, it's just a fact he's brilliant, look at what he accomplished)
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