Insult.

[FOZ_1983]

i know its a spit Mk2, and unfortunately it has cannons which it shouldnt really have since it should be a Mk1.

But...

i dont think it flies like a Mk2 in game does it? basically in game its a Mk1 but in a Mk2 airframe, so bar the cannons its pretty much a Mk2 looking Mk1


i could be wrong.

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by Werner Molders

Its quite frankly not a big deal, but im sick of seeing planes always in favour of the Allies.

The Bf 109 had a 7:1 kill ratio

You would never believe it according to this game!!

All im asking for is a little bit of respect on the part of the German side and that seems to be too much for "Oleg's World"

Sorry but this needs to be said, im a pilot myself and i would like some justice here.

This game assumes that the Spitfire was the saviour of the day in the Battle of Britain. It wasnt, it was the Hurricane. No one ever accredits the Hurricane because it wasnt as agile or as fast and as pretty.

The top 100 fighter pilot scorers were all from Germany in World War 2! Does it not possibly occur to anyone that there is a correlation between the fact these pilots all flew Bf 109's throughout most of their careers and the horrendus kill scores!

This is just more "Spitfire is wonderful" bias in a world that believes in propoganda rather than fact. Thats all i stand for passionate flying, historical and accurate. Judge as you will.

Not been on these forums long eh? lol. I ALWAYS give the hurricane credit for this and i make sure everyone in here knows it to

[Ancient Seraph]

As pointed out in this thread very well, it's not the way the game is designed that favors Spits, La's and other turners, but the way it's played. The 109 was made for B&Z, which is relatively uneffective in-game, where most of the battles are turn-based.

[Werner Molders]

Good point, but i noticed the Spitfire II can out-climb and out-dive the Bf 109 E which is not correct (arcade and realistic at least) which is completely false as the Bf 109 E could climb almost a third faster.

Also whenever i try to Boom and Zoom on this game, somehow the plane below can always continue to climb up and hit me and never seem to stall despit im almost vertical in the climb and even with a good half or more kilometre distance.

This is wholly inaccurate. How can i press any any advantage if this is the case, how can anyone. Plus another problem is the fact crashing aircraft are not always recorded as "kills" even if badly damaged means that its even harder to get any kills online, and yet i have been a PC flight simulator gamer (on PC version of IL2 Sturmovik) for 6 years and was damn good at it with 4 or 5 thousand kills, with maybe a third of them online.

[Reknad]

Spitfire fans rant reminds me of twilight fans when i say "Edward cullen is gay"

no offense

[King Jareth]

Originally Posted by MorgothNL

Come one people!
complain about bugs, bad gameplay, not accurate flight models, controls.. but dont get so raged because of this.


DO SOME RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT OLEG BEFORE I SUE YOUR COMPANY. THIS IS NOT A JOKE.

^^ thats just a joke right? if not... it still is funny

It should be, Oleg Maddox had nothing to do with this game.
YOU DO SOME RESEARCH CAPS LOCK BOY.

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by King Jareth

It should be, Oleg Maddox had nothing to do with this game.
YOU DO SOME RESEARCH CAPS LOCK BOY.

i just LOL'd at that!!! i have no idea why i found that so funny.

[Steyr_amr]

I believe the immense kills achieved by Luftwaffe pilots was more to do with operational procedures and tactical considerations than aircraft superiority (note the 109 in my sig, if anything I'm biased TOWARDS to Messerschmitt).

German pilots basically lived at the front and could be fighting every day, but Allied pilots rotated. German aces continued to fly in combat, whereas Allied aces were promoted up the ranks or sent to training camps to share their knowledge with the next batch of nuggets.

Also, the German doctrine, centered around the 'finger four', dictated the leader (which would be the most experienced pilot, so Hartmann, Rall, Nowotny etc.) stalked the kill while the wingman covered him, so these pilots accrued many kills.

Futhermore, many of these aces flew on the eastern front during Operation Barbarossa, where they scored many victories against inexperienced Soviet pilots in often obsolete machinery. (Except of course Marseille, who scored almost all of his against Western Allied aircraft ^_^)

[PantherAttack2]

Originally Posted by Werner Molders

This is just more "Spitfire is wonderful" bias in a world that believes in propoganda rather than fact. Thats all i stand for passionate flying, historical and accurate. Judge as you will.

To be honest I don't know what you're talking about. What makes you believe that almost everyone in the world thinks Spitfires are wonderful?

EDIT: Hurricanes are always credited as long as me and FOZ 1983 are around. Hurricane FTW!

[PantherAttack2]

Originally Posted by Reknad

Spitfire fans rant reminds me of twilight fans when i say "Edward cullen is gay"

no offense

lol

Edward isn't gay... He's just a 100 year old stalker who loves a teenage girl.