Ok Im convinced: The IL-2 is WAY too over spec.

[Lexandro]

Have you ever noticed that the "chinless" typhoon looks an awful lot like a Spitfire from certain angles?

[Riceball]

No doubt the Typhoon could have been a spin-off of the Spit.

They would need to be in decent condition. The two airworthy P-40s, which were recovered somewhere toward the Pacific were raised up off the ground by the land owner, and sprayed with Desel fuel!!!

And one P-38 was recovered from 30 ft of ice. "Glacier Girl"

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by Lexandro

Have you ever noticed that the "chinless" typhoon looks an awful lot like a Spitfire from certain angles?

It does have a few striknig features.


I like the step how it goes from typhoon to fury.


i was also reading up on some things and alot of 262 pilots said their biggest fear was actually the tempest, because at low altitude they were so fast and had incredibly powerful guns (4 hispano cannons) that they scared the living shit out of the 262 pilots.

I always though it was the p51 that mullered them. Guess a little bit of research goes a long way


i wasn't so keen on the tempest though, i much preffered the typhoon. It looked so much better, much more beefy.

[akuma]

Originally Posted by mattmanB182

Seriously, its near impossible to take down. I play on "realistic" I have played three matches of team battle in a row in which the IL-2 has led everyone in kills.

In real life the rear gunner casualty rates on these things were appaling. There was ZERO armor to protect the gunner. Yet in the game it seems to have more armor than a King Tiger tank.

Just because its the games name sake doesnt mean it should be invincible.

I find the best way to deal with IL's is to get underneath them, follow them though a turn slightly below and to the right or left, this leaves you out of the field of fire of the rear gunner and the under bellies are reasonably vunerable.

Agreed its a difficult angle to get to, but its better than getting on the 6 and getting shot down 10 times.

That said, I put well over 30+ cannon rounds through an IL-10's wing on realistic and it still flew straight and level, but the soviet planes were always going to get a hint of bias!

[FOZ_1983]

remember that B29 they found in the glacier, got it repaired etc only to destroy it while taxiing!!

******* idiots.

[Riceball]

Originally Posted by FOZ_1983

remember that B29 they found in the glacier, got it repaired etc only to destroy it while taxiing!!

******* idiots.

I'm not sure how much damage you could do on the ground. I'm sure it is, or will be airworthy. But yeah, what the hell were they doing?

And I know a flight or P-51s would equal a bad day for any flight of German fighters.

[Flywest]

Don't know if it's of relevance or not, having not played the IL-2 in MP but in the "Pocket chapter" during the Campaign, I've found that the rear gun on the IL-2 was overdone, a couple of hits would send down a german fighters in flames. It's almost like I had a laser canon.

FWIW, I play on Sim.

[beaker126]

[QUOTE=Lexandro;105713]NOW I believe you have hit the crux of the issue here, namely no overheat on turret guns. The planes damage model I believe is correct and fine, but this point that you now raise does indeed constitute an issue with the aircraft.

So the point is rather more simpler now, if these guns DID overheat wouldnt that be a much more balanced aspect of the combat? And would this alone alieviate the difficulty that some people have when fighting them?[/QUOTE

I've mentioned this a time or two as well, the turret guns should have some limiter on the like a planes main guns. Especially when you consider in real life, some planes had ammo boxes for the guns that held only 100-250 rounds. That's not a lot of firing time. The flex guns on German planes were particularly bad about this, holding only 75 rounds. I'm really hoping for a patch. But the best defense is still don't stay on a bombers ass for more than a second or two.

[mdbuehler]

Lol, figured that out the hard way on realistic multiplayer. Was 1 v 1 against an IL2, me in my LA-7, and attacking that thing from the rear was a death wish! Off angle from beneath seemed safer, but I'd swear he could tag me from about any angle I came at him! That was an embarassing round!