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Old 08-20-2009, 09:55 PM
Whiskey Red Whiskey Red is offline
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I thought I would start a new thread for discussion to honor Anton's request that we not reply to his previous post directly.

Thanks Anton, but I don't understand why this could not have been said sooner. Also, will we be paying for the DLC cockpits or will it be an update, free of charge?
At any rate, I am relieved to hear that you still plan to release the cockpits. That does help reinforce my decision to buy the game upon release.

Let's hear what the rest of ya'll think.

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Old 08-20-2009, 10:13 PM
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Thanks Anton, but I don't understand why this could not have been said sooner.
Somehow, I became obligated to monitor the forum and answer all questions at the time they appear? It is 5 days or so till the first question, right?
OK, the answer is - I - personally - was busy. There is a huge event in Cologne, calling 'Gamescom', you know.

Not everyone (almost noone) is allowed to disclose any new information about the game prior release. That's publisher's only right and obligation.
I have violated it already, yes.
Why publisher is not answering then? The answer is clear - they are not reading this forum at all. That's makes sense, it is about 30 people here, all of them are simmers, and publisher's goal is it to sell 30 000 times more copies. And, unfortunately (for all of us, really), most of the buyers do not cares about not only cockpits, but Simulation mode at all.
That doesn't mean they are not respecting simmers audience, no, on the contrary - it was left mostly to me myself (there were not so many people here before demo). And so, if I am in a business trip or vacation - there could be delays between answers. Usually, it doesn't matter, you know

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I am pretty sure, that if everyone flight-sim lover here (let's say in maximum 1000 people) here would be able to pay, directly, let's say $500 - then there would be game only for them. With forbidden access to casual players, you know. ))

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The reason why I've asked not to discuss that is that I didn't want to discuss that, not that I didn't want to discuss that in that thread. Please, do me a favour .
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:18 PM
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Somehow, I became obligated to monitor the forum and answer all questions at the time they appear? It is 5 days or so till the first question, right?
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This is the very reason I have closed two threads beacuse everybody DEMANDING That Anton answer these questions. Now everybody in here should feel somewhat of shame for demanding answers. Head on over to the HAWX forums where they don't answer anything.

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Probably because he can't the reasons why is publisher (Which he has said before) or all the other posts about how this game is not going to be good because of this, or how many people are not going to buy it now.

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Old 08-20-2009, 10:42 PM
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Sorry to be so harsh but you are wrong

You closed a thread with the WRONG info!! I for one had 'proof' that what you said wasn't true.

I was not DEMANDING anything, but if i suspect things said to be not true i go my OWN way (as does Anton)

Here you go, read it again: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=146

Edit: You have the power of moderation ... use it wisely!
I didn't even mention your name.

What I was talking about was people saying that Anton needed to answer it just kept going and going. And he had a legitimate reason for not answering.

What I thought was proof was coming from the twitter page and the 505 online demo.

I apologize for saying that there would be cockpits because I got that information off of the twitter site, and from the posts from the LIVE DEMO.

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Old 08-20-2009, 11:03 PM
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Today, I yelled at a successful international game producer.
Who took so much time to answer questions.
I'm so sorry Anton.
Yeah, I appreciate your sense of humour.
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:13 PM
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Thanks for the reply Anton.

I'm really not out to be snarky when I say the decision to release a flight sim game without cockpits is probably one of the more convoluted, confusing and bizarre decisions ever made in development/publishing of a project.

It's unfortunate and dissapointing to say the least, hopefully full support of all the planes in BoP will be added eventually. Until then.
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:24 AM
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Thank you for the advice.
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:24 PM
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Ok, so let's please Anton
I think it would be nice. Not hoping much for that, though.

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I really think this isn't right.
I disagree. Making me pleased, is not such a bad thing.
I am trying to do the same thing for community, eventually.
It really could become a 'win-win'.

P.S. Just kidding.
Of course, you are not here to make me pleased. But I really don't see what could be discussed here, and I am feeling like I am caught in a cross-fire. Nobody seem to be really happy with this decision. But now, it is still too late to revert it to only 12th playable plane available, or move gold master by 9 months (or so) ahead to make all fighter's cockpits. So, let's just stop discuss it.

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Old 08-20-2009, 10:30 PM
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Adapting IL-2 was adapting the reference in flight simulation.

And finally two weeks before the game comes out we are told that this clearly isn't what the team put attention for.

Then the game should have the name "Crimson Skies".

I might be out of line, but this is what I think.
First, it is not adapting. It's completely new game. You are simply mistaken.
Second, that's exactly what we put attention for. You can check it with a demo.
Third, luckily it's not you who name the game.
Fourth, yes, you are out of line.

Edit: And, yes, you really think it's better to know things two weeks prior release, than two weeks after you've bought the game? What's wrong with the timing?

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Old 08-20-2009, 10:38 PM
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wait im confused , so now there ARE NOT german cockpits?

or only in a few?
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