We need better flightsticks

[l88bastard]

I just finished the demo...simply one of the most awesome demos ever!

However, I have the Satiek Aviator AV8R for the 360 and I think my right hand is going to fall off. I just iced it down, but it is still dificult to type this. The sim is so much more intense than IL2-1946, which means constant stick handling, twisting, turning, pulling, stretching fingers etc...and the aviator just is not good enough. I miss my CH Flighstick, peddals and throttle...there are just too many functions for one joystick and wrist to take, it would not be so bad if we had some peddals because the twisting for the rudder is what is killing my hand the most.

The ambidexterous aviator is NOT ERGONOMICALLY GOOD FOR LONG HOURS of frantic play....what else is out there....and dont say the ACE stick because it looks gay and its deadzone is terrible in ACE combat 6!

Oh and my spelling sucks and I dont care because my hand is killing me!

[guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by l88bastard

I just finished the demo...simply one of the most awesome demos ever!

However, I have the Satiek Aviator AV8R for the 360 and I think my right hand is going to fall off. I just iced it down, but it is still dificult to type this. The sim is so much more intense than IL2-1946, which means constant stick handling, twisting, turning, pulling, stretching fingers etc...and the aviator just is not good enough. I miss my CH Flighstick, peddals and throttle...there are just too many functions for one joystick and wrist to take, it would not be so bad if we had some peddals because the twisting for the rudder is what is killing my hand the most.

The ambidexterous aviator is NOT ERGONOMICALLY GOOD FOR LONG HOURS of frantic play....what else is out there....and dont say the ACE stick because it looks gay and its deadzone is terrible in ACE combat 6!

Oh and my spelling sucks and I dont care because my hand is killing me!

[versapak]

I finally got to actually spend some time with the demo, and the deadzone really is obnoxious.

It has nothing to do with the controllers. It is programmed into the game. If you take the Ace Edge or Aviator and plug it into the PC you will find that the control itself actually has no deadzone.

How they could make a sim game, that is so obviously going to cater to people using a flight stick , and not offer a deadzone adjustment is baffling.






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[l88bastard]

Originally Posted by versapak

I finally got to actually spend some time with the demo, and the deadzone really is obnoxious.

It has nothing to do with the controllers. It is programmed into the game. If you take the Ace Edge or Aviator and plug it into the PC you will find that the control itself actually has no deadzone.

How they could make a sim game, that is so obviously going to cater to people using a flight stick , and not offer a deadzone adjustment is baffling.






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What joystick are you using? There really is no deadzone with the aviator...its just hard to line up precise shots when your on realistic and sim mode because of all of the external effects, but you get the hang of it after a couple of tries...Are you using the ace stick, is the deadzone bad?

[versapak]

Originally Posted by l88bastard

What joystick are you using? There really is no deadzone with the aviator...its just hard to line up precise shots when your on realistic and sim mode because of all of the external effects, but you get the hang of it after a couple of tries...Are you using the ace stick, is the deadzone bad?

I haven't used the aviator, but you are the first person to say that there is no deadzone with it. Others have claimed that there is.

I am using the Ace Edge, and I know it does not have a hardware deadzone. It is easily tested on the PC.

It has nothing to do with simulation mode. There is definitely a dead zone.

[l88bastard]

Originally Posted by versapak

I haven't used the aviator, but you are the first person to say that there is no deadzone with it. Others have claimed that there is.

I am using the Ace Edge, and I know it does not have a hardware deadzone. It is easily tested on the PC.

It has nothing to do with simulation mode. There is definitely a dead zone.

Ok, I cant figure out if its deadzone or if the game is just trying to be ultra realistic and simulate all of the external effects such as wind, torque, gun fire, etc... because it is way more precise on arcade difficulty...

As is, I love the game and will buy it, however, I am not sure that I will be playing it because a half hour later and my hand is still numb...anybody wanna buy a slightly used aviator?

[Saturat]

yeah the aviator made my arm hurt alot. really, that shit could bring you a bad inflammation, keep going and the injury will become permanent.

and the deadzone, why! WHY? its terrible, the whole point of the flightstick is precise control.

[Desode]

Originally Posted by l88bastard

i just finished the demo...simply one of the most awesome demos ever!

However, i have the satiek aviator av8r for the 360 and i think my right hand is going to fall off. I just iced it down, but it is still dificult to type this. The sim is so much more intense than il2-1946, which means constant stick handling, twisting, turning, pulling, stretching fingers etc...and the aviator just is not good enough. I miss my ch flighstick, peddals and throttle...there are just too many functions for one joystick and wrist to take, it would not be so bad if we had some peddals because the twisting for the rudder is what is killing my hand the most.

The ambidexterous aviator is not ergonomically good for long hours of frantic play....what else is out there....and dont say the ace stick because it looks gay and its deadzone is terrible in ace combat 6!

Oh and my spelling sucks and i dont care because my hand is killing me!

There is no deadzone using the ace edge hotas on this game zero !! I mean none ! If you move it a hair it makes the plane move.

I explained this before,, the ace combat 6 programers made the dead zone there on purpose to not give the flight stick users a edge over the controller gamers.

I don't like the look of it either , but Thank God I have it because Anton was right it is AMAZING with this game. Ever bit as good as my X 52 Pro.

I even made a video showing the Ace edge has no deazone due to its construction, its the programers job. Digg around on this forum if you want to see it, I posted it here a while ago to explain this whole situation to people.

DESODE

[l88bastard]

Originally Posted by Desode

There is no deadzone using the ace edge hotas on this game zero !! I mean none ! If you move it a hair it makes the plane move.

I explained this before,, the ace combat 6 programers made the dead zone there on purpose to not give the flight stick users a edge over the controller gamers.

I don't like the look of it either , but Thank God I have it because Anton was right it is AMAZING with this game. Ever bit as good as my X 52 Pro.

I even made a video showing the Ace edge has no deazone due to its construction, its the programers job. Digg around on this forum if you want to see it, I posted it here a while ago to explain this whole situation to people.

DESODE

What controls the RUDDER function with the ACE Stick? The aviator stick twists and I cannot tolerate that anylonger...its killing my wrist

Thanks for your answers guys!

[versapak]

Originally Posted by l88bastard

What controls the RUDDER function with the ACE Stick? The aviator stick twists and I cannot tolerate that anylonger...its killing my wrist

Thanks for your answers guys!

The ace stick has a rutter control on the back side of the throttle.

It is a rocker switch that is kind of like 2 triggers connected together, and functions like a see-saw.