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Old 01-12-2009, 10:51 PM
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Hi!

Anyone else that has tried IL2 on the Windows 7 beta? I've tried some other games that seem to run better than on Vista (that hog), but unfortunately IL2 on OpenGL settings does not work for me...

I have an Nvidia 8800GTX card with the 181.20 drivers and IL2 4.08 with the latest (?) graphic dll's ( 02/27 2008 ). When I run it the screen gets vertical oscillating tears/ripples all over like an old CRT that is about to die... Naturally it works on DirectX - but with bad FPS and quality etc...

I know Windows 7 is just a beta - but it's interesting to hear if the problem affects others (ATI users for example)... Since Vista was so bad at OpenGL until SP1 I had hoped that SP2 (Windows 7 ) was going to be even better at OpenGL... Yeah - that's stupid.

Going back to trusty old XP again...

/Mazex
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Read some good tests by EcoDragon
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:04 PM
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Read some good tests by EcoDragon
Mmm, that looks rather promising - and EcoDragon obviously got it running in W7. He does not say his videocard - but he at least has the same CPU as me, and the same overclock

The score is not better that XP, but it's close enough. W7 generally feels a lot snappier than Vista so I have good vibes about it - even though I get a lot of bluescreens right now... As the expected release is late 09 they have a lot of time for fixing them. As it is now it almost feels like running Ubuntu sometimes - and thats good!
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"Windows 7 and IL2... No love?"
Don't bother making any decisions on the new OS now. Test results showing how poorly IL-2 runs on Vista or W7 is a pointless exercise. Wait for SoW and the retail release of W7 and then worry about weather the new OS is worth your hard earned $$$.
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"Windows 7 and IL2... No love?"
Don't bother making any decisions on the new OS now. Test results showing how poorly IL-2 runs on Vista or W7 is a pointless exercise. Wait for SoW and the retail release of W7 and then worry about weather the new OS is worth your hard earned $$$.
Give that man a cookie! Be amazed that such an old game even runs on these new operating systems!
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Old 01-15-2009, 11:57 AM
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I'm pretty sure Eco uses an 8800GTS. As far as the Windows7 beta, I'm not too concerned. While is popular (even politically correct at times) to bash MS, their track record in learning from their mistakes is pretty good. I doubt Windows7 will be any different. I'm still running XP Pro SP3 and intend to leap-frog Vista altogether. Preliminary reports on driver support, speed and compatibility of W7 all sound like things are moving in the right direction.

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Give that man a cookie! Be amazed that such an old game even runs on these new operating systems!
Mmm, the thing that worries me a bit though is that Vista has performed miserably in OGL and Vista 1.1 (Windows 7) seems to continue that tradition. The only modern "in engine" clip of SoW we have seen lately (the editor") was running in OpenGL...

A problem? Hope not... SoW will probably have DirectX support as well, lets just hope that it's not as bad as the dx mode in IL2 in that case. I don't really understand why to bother doing both OpenGL and dx if you only release the game on the Windows platform though...

Anyway - it's the first public beta and it's so much better than Vista was 12 months before release...
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Hi!

Anyone else that has tried IL2 on the Windows 7 beta? I've tried some other games that seem to run better than on Vista (that hog), but unfortunately IL2 on OpenGL settings does not work for me...

I have an Nvidia 8800GTX card with the 181.20 drivers and IL2 4.08 with the latest (?) graphic dll's ( 02/27 2008 ). When I run it the screen gets vertical oscillating tears/ripples all over like an old CRT that is about to die... Naturally it works on DirectX - but with bad FPS and quality etc...

I know Windows 7 is just a beta - but it's interesting to hear if the problem affects others (ATI users for example)... Since Vista was so bad at OpenGL until SP1 I had hoped that SP2 (Windows 7 ) was going to be even better at OpenGL... Yeah - that's stupid.

Going back to trusty old XP again...

/Mazex
I have the same problem with Il21946 and DCS:BS GUI (Launcher) only. The workaround in Il2 for me is running it in a window equal to my monitor resolution with taskbar autohide on. Performance is very good, although it is running Aero Glass in the background, I get avg FPS of 40-50 with Vsync on.

Does anyone know what is actually the problem here? I thought it was drivers, or Aero Glass GUI, but I have R4850 card and mazex has nVidia and we both have the same problem... One wird thing (one other guy running W7+DCS noticed too) is that screen refresh frequency is fixed at 59 Hz in W7, and cannot be changed to 60 Hz. Maybe that is the issue?

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ASUS P5K MoBo
C2Duo 6850 CPU
6 GB DDR2 800 RAM
R4850 512 MB graphics
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Hi!

Anyone else that has tried IL2 on the Windows 7 beta? I've tried some other games that seem to run better than on Vista (that hog), but unfortunately IL2 on OpenGL settings does not work for me...

I have an Nvidia 8800GTX card with the 181.20 drivers and IL2 4.08 with the latest (?) graphic dll's ( 02/27 2008 ). When I run it the screen gets vertical oscillating tears/ripples all over like an old CRT that is about to die... Naturally it works on DirectX - but with bad FPS and quality etc...

I know Windows 7 is just a beta - but it's interesting to hear if the problem affects others (ATI users for example)... Since Vista was so bad at OpenGL until SP1 I had hoped that SP2 (Windows 7 ) was going to be even better at OpenGL... Yeah - that's stupid.

Going back to trusty old XP again...

/Mazex
Same issue here. GTX 275. Is there any solution known yet?
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If you are using the Win 7 beta, why haven't you got the Release Candidate installed ?

Download it from here both versions 32 and 64 bit.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/e...?ITPID=mscomsc


I have had no problems with running a 9800GTX+ and see no difference in FPS with Win 7 RC v XP but I do see some smoothness over Vista, might be placebo but the FPS counters suffering the same as me

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* Supports single GPU and NVIDIA SLI technology on DirectX 9, DirectX 10, and OpenGL, including 3-way SLI, Quad SLI, and SLI support on SLI-certified Intel X58-based motherboards.
* Includes full support for OpenGL 3.0.
* Supports NVIDIA PhysX acceleration on a dedicated GeForce graphics card. Use one card for graphics and dedicate a different card for PhysX processing for game-changing physical effects. Learn more here. Note: GPU PhysX is supported on all GeForce 8-series, 9-series and 200-series GPUs with a minimum of 256MB dedicated graphics memory.
* Supports GPU overclocking and temperature monitoring by installing NVIDIA System Tools software.

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