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Old 10-08-2008, 07:52 AM
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Default Demon castle - Defeat the Demon girl

Hi,

Ya... let me put it this way. I'm STUCK.

Tried alot of different tactics but this army slowly kills me. I simply don't have the manapool, army or whatever to beat this army. I'm a mage, level 23.

Current stats:
~14000 leadership.
~105 mana.
~23 int

Current army:
~180 elven archers
~110 elven hunters
~8 green dragons
~7 red dragons
~5 black dragons

As both red and black damage deal fire damage, they do very little damage to the demons. And those stacks with 100+ demonesses basicly kill a dragon every turn.

Any ideas?
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:08 AM
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I think 23 is a little low for her, u cleared out the undead lands yet?

I did her as a level 26 Pally, using a Hunter/Elf/Druid/Inquisitor/Swordman setup.

What i did was to do a teleport on the 1st turn on the swordsman into the enemy ranks and let it take the hits, then do a Rage "time walk" (forgot the name of the skill) to reverse all dmg on it.

Then keep the resurrection up on your units. I won quite comfortably in tat way. Normal mode though.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:13 AM
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No. I didn't clear the undead lands. I bypassed most of the armies, as they were too strong for me to handle. Most of them are "very strong" to me, even though I play on normal skill. Perhaps it's time to bring out the good old knights for some dragon slaying abilities, and clear them out as good as I can... I might be able to get another level there. Not sure how much it will help though. I think my general strategi / setup simply doesn't work against that particular demon army.

The swordsman strat seems to be alright. But you have a whole lot of archers, won't they get swapped by the demonesses and be eaten alive? That's what happens to mine anyway.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:22 AM
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Somehow enemy AI seems to prefer targets that are in their face, so the swordsman gets their love usually (whips and hopefully candles )

I would suggest clearing the undead lands 1st though, demon land mobs seem to be harder than the undead ones i killed.
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:22 AM
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You absolutely should put for this battle both black and red dragons away, but what to recruit instead?

If you could manage the problem that dwarves and elves dislike each other - my advise would be canoneers and giants.

If the morale loss it not of your liking than:
Cyclops (resistant to fire, physical and deal huge damage)
Inquisitors (ressurect, but not very good archers, still very handy for keeping your green dragons up with lives - when you use GIFT, you are sorted)

Also you can try fire spiders (fast, huge damage, resistant to fire)

both hunters/elven archers are fine btw - keep them

and I would advise as well - return to demon lands after you clear undead... demons are stronger than undead (Karador included) IMHO
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:28 AM
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Thanks for the advice.

I'll definately try to look up some of the units you recommended. That was exactly what I was looking for.

What damage type does spiders deal? Is it poison? Are demons vulnerable to poison? I had a feeling these maybe abit weak. But since they are resistent to fire, it might not be a bad choice at all.

I think I'll try cyclops + fire spiders, instead of the green and black dragons. Just to see where that puts me.

Thanks for the advice.

More are always welcome
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:01 PM
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No. I didn't clear the undead lands. I bypassed most of the armies, as they were too strong for me to handle. Most of them are "very strong" to me, even though I play on normal skill. Perhaps it's time to bring out the good old knights for some dragon slaying abilities, and clear them out as good as I can... I might be able to get another level there. Not sure how much it will help though. I think my general strategi / setup simply doesn't work against that particular demon army.

The swordsman strat seems to be alright. But you have a whole lot of archers, won't they get swapped by the demonesses and be eaten alive? That's what happens to mine anyway.
Your "strategy" consists of two parts as far as I can tell:
1. Bring cool looking units that do damage to which the enemy is resistant, and take up a lot of leadership for relatively little powers.
2. Skip all the fights leading to a boss fight, leaving you many levels too low.

I suggest serious revisions to both of these.
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Old 10-28-2008, 03:23 AM
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Garrison your blacks and reds in that city (I have no idea why you carried these guys in demonis, where they are useless) and buy something else for those slots (whatever is available in that castle, or try shops in islands around).

EDIT:
Nevermind, I didn't read you won the battle.

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Old 10-28-2008, 06:40 AM
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I wouldn't say they are useless.. sure they inflict half damage, but they are still a damage sponge. Just put them in front to take all the hits and by the time the one on the top of the stack is about to die just bail them out (the fight should be over by then).
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Old 12-11-2008, 09:53 PM
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Hi,

Ya... let me put it this way. I'm STUCK.

Tried alot of different tactics but this army slowly kills me. I simply don't have the manapool, army or whatever to beat this army. I'm a mage, level 23.

Current stats:
~14000 leadership.
~105 mana.
~23 int

Current army:
~180 elven archers
~110 elven hunters
~8 green dragons
~7 red dragons
~5 black dragons

As both red and black damage deal fire damage, they do very little damage to the demons. And those stacks with 100+ demonesses basicly kill a dragon every turn.

Any ideas?
I just beat her with a Lvl 19 paladin on impossible with about 20% losses with an all demon army.

I think I had: (approx)

50 Demons
85 demonesses
400 imps
320 scoffer imps
140 cerberus

You just have to let all her troops come to you so they get stuck and cant all attack you at once. Soul drain those large stacks of demonesses (was a couple of stacks with about 250 each) and use pain mirror or pigmy on the other stacks depending on the situation. I used my own demoness' switch ability to swap my cerberus for their stack of 950 imps and pigmy them to make easier to bring down to size.

I think I went the wrong way however.. to come straight to demonis from the dwarven land. I can beat all of the enemies listed as overpowering and some of those on impossible but its more of a struggle then it needs to be. Went to the elven lands next and its omg weak, and those sprites, dryads and lake faires seem a bit too good..

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