Take off problems

[Blackadder]

I am a rookie so am taking things easy. I am not using complex engine management and am just trying to learn how to fly properly and take out the biplanes effectively before I go and get involved in the campaigns.

I can fly well enough when I start in mid air for free flight or dogfight mode but my problem comes when I start from the ground.

The same thing happens every time. I take off with flaps down, I then retract the landing gear and hold steady as I start to climb. Then at about 1000 feet (maybe less) my RPM cuts out and I crash into the ground.

I have complex engine management off so I imagine that means that the game is taking care of all the engine cooling and prop pitch settings. The fact that I never run into any engine trouble when starting from the air suggests as well that that is the case.


Any idea why my engine dies like that every time I take off?

[kristorf]

What aircraft are you flying??

Also, if its a Spit or Hurri you shouldn't have the flaps down.

[Blackadder]

I am flying a hurricane.

Thanks for the flaps tip.

[grawl]

Maybe your engine is overheating. The radiator is probably closed by default when you start from the ground, and opened when you start in mid-air.

I think you still have to manage the radiators unless the difficulty option Engine Overheating is disabled.

[Continu0]

Also do not climb too hard. When you are climbing too hard, you stall. Also the engine will overheat because cooling becomes worse...

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

Your flying the Hurricane right? ok,my guess is your stalling,on take off,don't climb too quickly,allow your RPM and speed to build up before making any manouvres,up or sideways.

You need your speed on take off to reach at least 90mph before leaving the ground,and as you do,don't climb too fast,build up your speed in a gradual controlled manner so that you don't bleed off the energy you have just gained.

Actually,with all respect to the others,I do take off with flaps down,but only about two stages down on the marker,just before the '20' mark(see flaps marker gauge on right hand side of cockpit,same area as landing gear lever).

A little bit of flaps will give the aircraft lift on take off,and you won't need so much of the runway to take off from.

But energy is king here,it's your speed that's letting you down for sure,I'm convinced.

[Osprey]

Wise words here.

Blackadder, if you like the Hurricane then come and fly with us since we have the largest gathering of Hurricane pilots in COD so we'll certainly be able to help you. Both Meaker and Kristorf are both members of ACG.

See here:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...67&postcount=5

Hope to see you online

[redxfred]

Originally Posted by Blackadder

I am a rookie so am taking things easy. I am not using complex engine management and am just trying to learn how to fly properly and take out the biplanes effectively before I go and get involved in the campaigns.

I can fly well enough when I start in mid air for free flight or dogfight mode but my problem comes when I start from the ground.

The same thing happens every time. I take off with flaps down, I then retract the landing gear and hold steady as I start to climb. Then at about 1000 feet (maybe less) my RPM cuts out and I crash into the ground.

I have complex engine management off so I imagine that means that the game is taking care of all the engine cooling and prop pitch settings. The fact that I never run into any engine trouble when starting from the air suggests as well that that is the case.


Any idea why my engine dies like that every time I take off?

You can eliminate the overheat as a cause by selecting "Temperature effect OFF" on the realism menu. A crash after takeoff with a good engine almost has to be a stall. Reducing pitch and increasing airspeed will do the trick.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Blackadder

The same thing happens every time. I take off with flaps down, I then retract the landing gear and hold steady as I start to climb. Then at about 1000 feet (maybe less) my RPM cuts out and I crash into the ground.

I have complex engine management off so I imagine that means that the game is taking care of all the engine cooling and prop pitch settings. The fact that I never run into any engine trouble when starting from the air suggests as well that that is the case.


Any idea why my engine dies like that every time I take off?

With CEM off, the airscrew or propeller automatically goes to coarse pitch almost immediately after take-off. This is why your rpm reduces significantly. There is no need to worry about the drop in rpm. But, that doesn't explain why you're falling out of the sky. Flap is not needed for take-off by the way, although it helps get off the ground with the terrible acceleration of the DH5-20 props. However, your airspeed will be lower with flaps down, so if you're pulling back on the stick and raising flaps without enough airspeed, you're stalling through lack of lift. One of the easiest mistakes to make is to simply pull back on the stick expecting to climb, without anywhere near enough airspeed. Take off with no flaps, and as soon as your wheels are up, level off and allow your airspeed to increase to 140mph. As your airspeed increases, you will start to climb quite naturally, with no need to pull on the stick. Pulling on the stick is a bad thing to do when climbing. Your forward speed will eventually generate enough lift in order to climb, as long as you give it time. These early WWII aircraft aren't rocket boosted jet propelled missiles, although sometimes, when up against E4/Ns, I wish they were. .

[Osprey]

Wise words Dutch. Blackadder, drop into our Teamspeak one evening and we'll have you battering Jerry in no time.

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