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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games. |
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Improve your aiming/marksman skills
EDIT: The info in this first post is outdated. Disregard the convergences you see here. After more testing I'll post my new recommendations later in the thread.
Before I scare away people with some more complicated stuff, here's a picture: Now, something more complicated: This are the harmonization and gun convergences for the P-51 mustang.
From that you can see that the guns not only don't meet at the same convergence horizontally, but not even vertically. I managed to model .303 caliber bullet trajectories in one of my CAD programs, and I tried to copy the same pattern seen in the P-51 charts. This harmonization pattern is there for a reason, it's not as simple as setting a one point convergence. Spitfire/Hurricane convergences in the picture should greatly improve kill/damage probabilities for pilots that are not excellent marksmen. I do not have a joystick at the moment so I need volunteers to test this out. Preferably pilots who are flying online for a while now, and know their kill ratio and skill level. To see if there will be any improvement. I put this in the main forum so that as many people as possible see it, because it should really make things easier for the average pilot reading through the front page mainly. 150 yards harmonization, and more advanced patterns coming up.. Last edited by hegykc; 11-07-2012 at 06:10 AM. |
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This is very interesting!
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Check out the the Spitfire convergence pattern.... really exotic:
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Those are the official P-51 convergence patterns, drawn up for average pilots who were not very good shots. Most experienced Aces preferred to go for a tighter pattern, for more concentrated hitting power. Also remember that the P-51 was equipped with .50 calibre weapons, much more effective than a .303, it only took a couple .50's to do the damage of 10 .303's, so you could afford to spread out your pattern and still be effective against the primary target for the P-51, which was single engined fighters, relatively fragile targets. The British had as their primary focus, medium bombers, with fighters a distant second. Of course most guys in this game prefer to shoot down fighter opponents, but they will meet bombers. It's the old dilemma, shotgun pattern for better chance of a hit, or concentrated for more effect when you do hit. |
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this is confusing me, isn't the settings for guns in meters?
So whats those setting in yards? or meters? and in the game the guns are out board to inboard another confusing thing? so 1/8 is outer most, with 2/7, 3/6, 4/5. I'm confused?
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Units of measurement int the pictures are yards. If the game uses meters, convert.
No. 1 guns are inboard, as per the mustang charts. I can correct these to be as in the game, but later.. |
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Mastiff has made a point though about confusion, the top chart is in yards, the below P-51 chart is in feet, it would be better to convert everything to feet I think. 150 yards = 450 ft |
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So what does the game use for distance? meters?
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The sight convergence is what I have to set my gun convergence distance (again in yards and meters?) and then I have to approach the plane to the indicated distance in order to achieve the hit area pattern as indicated in the pic? Please help a confused pilot. |
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Well after a week of testing I found out that I had the "only 2 guns firing" bug on my single point conversion tests.
And than when I fixed it, I cannot see a significant difference between a single point and my setup, from ranges of 100 meters or less. What I can take away from this is that pilot kills (from 100 meters or less) are so easy they're actually hard to avoid. After murdering more than 100 pilots I started testing the setup on engines but gave up. It takes only a half second burst into the upper cockpit, shooting from the left side and the pilot is toasted. Any type of ammo any type of target, any convergence setup from 100 to 1000 meters. |
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