The new Oleg Maddoxs

[GF_Mastiff]

I would like to say that Luthier is doing a very good job with the "hands tied at the moment" from the bean counters.

This game will have a very profound effect in the next 18 months.

What Oleg did with IL2 Sturmovik IS EXACTLY what Luthier and the Maddox's team are doing with IL2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover.

So yes its going to be a hard wait for a lot of you, waiting. patiently is the key..

Luthier will definitely "MAKE A NAME FOR HIMSELF WITH THIS NEW FLIGHT SIM EXPERIENCE."

[ATAG_Snapper]

Very cool. I look forward to it!

[Red Dragon-DK]

Agree. He still has my support. Looking forward to the patch and the sequel.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff

I would like to say that Luthier is doing a very good job with the "hands tied at the moment" from the bean counters.

This game will have a very profound effect in the next 18 months.

What Oleg did with IL2 Sturmovik IS EXACTLY what Luthier and the Maddox's team are doing with IL2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover.

So yes its going to be a hard wait for a lot of you, waiting. patiently is the key..

Luthier will definitely "MAKE A NAME FOR HIMSELF WITH THIS NEW FLIGHT SIM EXPERIENCE."

They are so far off, it's not worth comparing them. Apples and oranges.
I have never seen such a long period of running around in circles, with little to nothing to show for, in the entire il2 history.

[Continu0]

"Time will tell" is the only thing we can say for sure...

[engadin]

Originally Posted by Continu0

"Time will tell" is the only thing we can say for sure...

Mate, sure time has already told everything it had to say so far. We all have clearly listened to the sad news. And even though my heart cries for something positive, my cold head goes right the other way.

Unfortunately this mess CoD&Sequel has became, from my humble POV, will soon show it is the consequence of quite bad commercial and management decisions made in the close and not so close past, by the Maddox, Ubi and 1C sequential teams. This is time to harvest.

Time will tell, that's just what I am afraid of.

Engadin.

[GF_Mastiff]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

They are so far off, it's not worth comparing them. Apples and oranges.
I have never seen such a long period of running around in circles, with little to nothing to show for, in the entire il2 history.

yes but you need to look at the releases from IL2 Sturmovik back in 2001 and how long that took to get better.

I think it took 6 years to get at the level of what it is today.

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff

yes but you need to look at the releases from IL2 Sturmovik back in 2001 and how long that took to get better.

I think it took 6 years to get at the level of what it is today.

But with all due respect the demo version was light years ahead of any of the other flight combat sims out there at the time so there was a huge noticeable difference.
Clod doesn't seem to have quite that gap above the others now and it's still not working enough.

[Continu0]

Originally Posted by Trumper

But with all due respect the demo version was light years ahead of any of the other flight combat sims out there at the time so there was a huge noticeable difference.
Clod doesn't seem to have quite that gap above the others now and it's still not working enough.

May I clarify that a light year is still a year?

[II/JG53_Volker]

I will add this from a longtime lurker. I have Been around since the Start had a couple of accounts over the years, set up a new one when I built this rig as I couldn't remember the login details

I think that CLOD will get better, but, I also think that it was in a very poor state when released. As Mastiff said, when IL2 was first released it took quite a while to get better, However I don't think it was anywhere near as bad as CLOD to start with

I will await the next patch and will buy the sequel as I think there is so much potential in this game/sim that is yet to be realized.

~S~