new prop visual effect = headache + ugly (and epilepsy trigger issue ?)

[zapatista]

this long promised patch just doesnt cut it on my poor little i5 @ 3.6 (dual core) system (yes i have somewhat higher frame rates at +/- 35 now, but still the sim isnt perfectly fluid, and the scenery colours and textures look somewhat bland (even compared to the razor sharp but low resolution il-1946 sim)

but this the new prop spin visual effect is a headache (literally).

what do you folks think ? i am partic interested in opinions from those that have been in smaller prop planes, and hence know what it should look like in real life.

visually the new current prop visual effect has a strobe like lighting effect which is very unpleasant to look at, and significantly distracts from how clearly you should be able to look at objects directly in front of you (if anything in a modern game will pose an epilepsy danger for the few whom are prone to it, this one surely will). imho also looks like nothing that i have seen in real life in small prop planes.

from my experience in small prop planes in real life, at high rpm the prop spin should just cause a small mild amount of blurring, and barely be visible. instead right now we have this massive strobe like flashing thing in front of us which blurs significantly what you can see, and makes it a very significant distraction. to me it is unpleasant, ugly and visually irritating to look at

in the later versions of the previous il2 series, and in the current DCS p51 for ex, this prop spin visual effect was pretty good, mildly visible but not distracting or unpleasant. imo if ever there was going to be an epilepsy trigger concern in those that are prone to it, this current visual effect would be a perfect candidate

specs: intel i5 @ 3.6 (dual core), 8 gb 1600 ram, ati 5770 (1 gb), win7 64 bit

i also had high hopes this new patch (with the complete gfx engine rewrite) would bring back some of the scenery visual beauty that was present when this sim was first released last year (albeit a stuttering beauty with constant microfreezes for me, making it unplayable), sadly this is not the case so far.

what do you folks think about this new prop spin visual effect ?

[lensman1945]

Certainly with the sun your six the prop disk is very distracting since the last patch.

Don't know how realistic this effect is tho'

[=FI=Scott]

Certainly agree with the sun glare on the prop- its a nightmare.

Every so often I get a 'blip' in the prop animation. Not sure if its a stutter, whether its down to the throttle bug (I only fly RAF) or if its a 'feature'. Either way its annoying as hell.

[furbs]

Originally Posted by zapatista

this long promised patch just doesnt cut it on my poor little i5 @ 3.6 (dual core) system (yes i have somewhat higher frame rates at +/- 35 now, but still the sim isnt perfectly fluid, and the scenery colours and textures look somewhat bland (even compared to the razor sharp but low resolution il-1946 sim)

Maybe its your PC configuration?











































JK'ing

Agreed on the prop stuff.

[Melbourne, FL]

Actually I like the new effect. I don't know how realistic it is but I can imagine that the prop disc might be rather bright if the sun shines at it from the right angle.

Alexander

[bongodriver]

Yes it does, and is also a potential epilepsy trigger in real life too.

[pupo162]

hi Zapatista!

i had the same issue as you, enabling Vsinc ended the strobe and the headaches issue.

still in my opinion prop is way to visible, and prop reflection is visible on way to many situations. .

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by pupo162

hi Zapatista!

i had the same issue as you, enabling Vsinc ended the strobe and the headaches issue.

still in my opinion prop is way to visible, and prop reflection is visible on way to many situations. .

thx for the tip

tried the vsync, maybe it mildly reduced it (hard to tell) but still looks pretty bad to me. so bad in fact i'd call it unplayable in its current form (it actually gives me a headache). maybe my fpsec's are just not high enough for vsync to work ? (i though you needed to have 60+ fpsec for it ), my current fpsecs are between 25 and 45. not high enough i sspect.

something needs to be done in the quality control department of 1c-CoD. there is barely a handfull of stubborn supporters left here who still hope/believe/think this sim will be fixed to become what it should be, and they are adding new major bugs instead ?

i tried to compare if the direction of sunlight hitting the prop mattered, and it does increase/decrease the problem, but for me in ALL directions of sunlight the problem is to severe, to unrealistic, to unpleasant to look at, and it gives me a headache even just after a few minutes

in its current state with the beta patch adding this strobe prop effect i find it unplayable

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by zapatista

thx for the tip

tried the vsync, maybe it mildly reduced it (hard to tell) but still looks pretty bad to me. so bad in fact i'd call it unplayable in its current form (it actually gives me a headache). maybe my fpsec's are just not high enough for vsync to work ? (i though you needed to have 60+ fpsec for it ), my current fpsecs are between 25 and 45. not high enough i sspect.

something needs to be done in the quality control department of 1c-CoD. there is barely a handfull of stubborn supporters left here who still hope/believe/think this sim will be fixed to become what it should be, and they are adding new major bugs instead ?

i tried to compare if the direction of sunlight hitting the prop mattered, and it does increase/decrease the problem, but for me in ALL directions of sunlight the problem is to severe, to unrealistic, to unpleasant to look at, and it gives me a headache even just after a few minutes

in its current state with the beta patch adding this strobe prop effect i find it unplayable

yes, you would need 60+... i used to come down from 100+ fps. i think you and i had different issues. either way, prop animation seems to be having problems, for both really high and low FPS, also LOW rev prop causes stutering.

bugtracker maybe?

[louisv]

Originally Posted by Melbourne, FL

Actually I like the new effect. I don't know how realistic it is but I can imagine that the prop disc might be rather bright if the sun shines at it from the right angle.

Alexander

It all depends on the angle with the Sun of course.

In some situations, notably on landing with the sun low through the prop (idling is the worst), or directly behind you, it can have a nasty hypnotic effect.

I think the problem is worse in real life actually.