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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-15-2012, 10:37 AM
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Default Battle of Moscow: Agricultural landscape.

The UDSSR under Communist rule have very extensive agricultural politics!
The invasion of Germany over USSR or UDSSR, began on 22 of June 1941.
At this priod the USSR or UDSSR government used planned economy based on 5-year plans, with extensive agriciltural operations and production.
The landscape have to be VERY different from the landscape of France and England!
At the moment of the military ivasion, majority of the fields have to be ploughed, and the crops have to be seeded, with crops at their middle phase of development!
1. This means, that the german tanks have to advance through a GREEN corn a half a meter high;
2. The wheat have to be LIGHT GREEN at this moment, not YELLOW, because at this latitude it rapes LATER!
3. There have to be extensive cooperative gardens of FRUIT TREES, of diffrent kind, with a white painted trunks.
4. A lot of irigation channels full of watter.

The so called "Kolhoz", and its HUGE fields of identical crops must cover extensive maps areas. This is not Westrn Europe, This is UDSSR: "Souiz nerushinmiii, Respublic svobodniih...." WELCOME TO EASTERN EUROPE AND EURASIA in 1941...

This have to be taken in to consideration of landscape modeling in to the next chapter of the sequel The BoM:
1. Extensive fields of corn;
2. Fields of wheat;
3. Fields of beetroot;
4. Fields of cabbage;
5. Apple gardens;
6. Cherry gardens;
7. Pear gardens;
8. Plume gardens.
9. Potato fiels...how they look from 100 meters from above...?

This is the reality, and this have to be taken in to consideration. Even, a agricultural statistics from 1940 have to be checked, before the map creating process!

The scorhed earth is not yet implemented, the germans keep the agricultural production for themselves - all of the animals are not killed, but seized.

Some pictures:

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/im...a8rDof_geP8JpQ

https://curieibhistoryreview09.wikis...561187/kol.jpg

http://gov.cap.ru/Home/591/29-13.jpg

http://www.agidel.ru/img/2011/octobe...0%BE%D0%B7.jpg

http://myaltai.ru/history/images/h0141.jpg

http://www.lovlinskaja.ru/img/ukrup4.jpg

http://www.suhobuzimo.ru/sites/defau...0%B8%D0%BD.jpg

http://pribaikal.ru/uploads/pics/CRW_2627.jpg

http://www.istorya.ru/book/ww2/img/tmp1B22-67h.jpg

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...p1mFJw_GV-0-YN

http://www.belniva.by/ufiles/2012/01...2012_8_p_1.jpg

http://bse.sci-lib.com/a_pictures/19/02/221599295.jpg

http://www.vplicei.ru/muzeum/muz22.jpg

http://tku.org.ua/system/files/images/vdnh_6.png

http://gzt.md/public/img/upload/image/31(1).jpg

http://proxy10.media.online.ua/uol/r...6ce50a2944.jpg

http://chertanovo-ug.narod.ru/archiv...1/index.30.jpg

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Old 04-15-2012, 10:52 AM
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what is "UDSSR" ?
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what is "UDSSR" ?
Seems to be German for USSR.

UDSSR = Union Der Sozialistischen Sowjetrepubliken.

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Any supporting pictures or documents would be great.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:49 PM
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Extensive fields of corn, apple gardens, cherry gardens, pear gardens in northwestern and central federal districts? I dream about it.
There are many fields of potato and no so many fields of wheat, thats all.
Cucumbers and tomatoes in greenhouses and cabbage with beetroot in private areas.
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Scorched Earth?
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Scorched Earth?
"A scorched earth policy is the deliberate burning, destruction, and removal by an army of everything that would be useful to an enemy coming into the area."

So he mean that in the early days of the invasion the farms are not destroyed and fields burned because the Germans keep the agricultural production for themselves - all of the animals are not killed, but seized.
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Extensive fields of corn, apple gardens, cherry gardens, pear gardens in northwestern and central federal districts? I dream about it.
There are many fields of potato and no so many fields of wheat, thats all.
Cucumbers and tomatoes in greenhouses and cabbage with beetroot in private areas.
Under the wise governent of tovarisht Stalin everithing grows in to the north-west USSR districts...
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About photos: I've never seen in my life stems of corn, cherry bushes and apple trees. I know that corn grows in Volgograd region etc.(southern plains). And some vine fields in Krasnodar region. As i say in moscow region and leningrad region only potato and wheat.
Flourishing agricultural industry was under Khrushchev.
landscape of southern russia.

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Old 04-16-2012, 02:11 PM
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About photos: I've never seen in my life stems of corn, cherry bushes and apple trees. I know that corn grows in Volgograd region etc.(southern plains). And some vine fields in Krasnodar region. As i say in moscow region and leningrad region only potato and wheat.
Flourishing agricultural industry was under Khrushchev.
landscape of southern russia.

This is nice but on the other videos on youtube I get the weird feeling like the aeroplanes are photoshoped on to the screen as they fly about. In my opinion the contrast between the aeroplane and it's background is too harsh. Like it has a pencil tracing around it's outline.
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