A model for beta development of a game...

[mazex]

Hi!

This forum is filled with simulator fans so I guess that some of you do racing simulators too. In the serious racing simulator genre there is a lot of competition and the fans are as rabid as the FSX vs XPlane etc

There is a new racing simulator coming up called Project C.A.R.S (rather silly name but still). They have a model where the game that is right now in Alpha state is accessible if you "join the team" for a fee that you decide. There is a Junior level for 10 Euro or the "Team member" level for 25 Euro that is the most common. Then you get weekly builds of the game - as it is right now. The developers call this a "community delevoped game" and the developers are EXTREMELY active in their forum that is only accessible to "team members". I joined yesterday and posted my fist post last night. Already the lead developer has put a "like" on the proposal and the forum just bursts with positive energy... As soon as something is done at a basic level it gets into the weekly build and you can try it at your own risk, bugs and all...

Something so think about? (and yes - it's DirectX 11 )

An image from the game... Suck on that detail


A trailer:
http://youtu.be/4NSjfaSw4_M?hd=1


Their site:

http://www.wmdportal.com/projects/cars/

I have CARS but i also subscribe to iRacing which is far superior in every way. I've been a paid member of iRacing for 3 years.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by machoo

I have CARS but i also subscribe to iRacing which is far superior in every way. I've been a paid member of iRacing for 3 years.

I agree that iRacing is a great racing simulator... The problem I have with it is that there are too many ovals in it And I'm not that much of a fan of their subscription payment model...

I do like Live for Speed too, only a bit boring that the development has stalled the latest years... And then rFactor 2 coming up that I haven't tried yet...

The interesting thing about pCars in relation to CloD is the development model... It sure would fit CloD too - as it's still in alpha state too

[Dr str@nglove]

Originally Posted by mazex

I agree that iRacing is a great racing simulator... The problem I have with it is that there are too many ovals in it And I'm not that much of a fan of their subscription payment model...

I do like Live for Speed too, only a bit boring that the development has stalled the latest years... And then rFactor 2 coming up that I haven't tried yet...

The interesting thing about pCars in relation to CloD is the development model... It sure would fit CloD too - as it's still in alpha state too

rfactor 2 beta is out now you should try it

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Dr str@nglove

rfactor 2 beta is out now you should try it

Mmm, I sure will in some time - BuzPilot dragged me into iRacing again so now I've spent $50 thanks to him on all the darn micro payments

iRacing really is great regarding the handling, but after trying out Watkins Glen that I've been running all afternoon in Project Cars it looks so old visually compared to the awesome graphics of pCars Running that -68 Lotus in pCars at Watkins Glen is so much fun, and even though there is so much good about the handling in iRacing I can't say that I'm disappointed with pCars... OK, I haven't driven any open wheelers (especially not from 6 so I don't know what to compare to - but I have raced some pretty bad modern super sport cars on track and pCars does not feel that bad to me!

In iRacing there is some stuff I don't like regarding when you are starting to loose the back of the car and let go of the throttle fast and that makes it recover (which in reality does the opposite).That was in the Star Mazda so lets not pull too much into that statement, I have too little milage in the game now to make too much of a statement regarding that... I really like them both and will probably buy rFactor 2 later tonight! Pretty tired of that old ISI rFactor engine that's in all other racing games these days... The thing about pCars is that the graphics engine really is a big step forward against the old Dx9 stuff in the others. But sure - a racing game is all about physics so they have a bit of work left there to beat iRacing...

[Revvin]

For me iRacing is still the best handling racing sim out there but pCars is an exciting project that I joined the first week they opened up membership. From then to now the game has taken huge leaps forward in terms of the handling and UI and its still only at alpha stage. I have rFactor 2 also but thats a big disappointment, it doesn't look like a 2012 game, it looks more like rFactor with hi-res textures but its still beta so there is time for improvement though I don't see it even touching pCars graphically or iRacing for that matter. Assetto Corsa loook interesting, its the follow up to netKar Pro so I'm very cautiouis as support was non-existent when that was released and it never lived up to its potential but Assetto Corsa is going to be moddable like rFactor and its based on a DX11 engine so hopefully they can support their product this time. Beyond that there's Simbin's GTR3 to look forward to also.

CARS has pretty bad wheel lag at the moment too. Once they get that sorted i'll check it out. I didnt realise they do weekly builds though , no information at all. I thought they'd send emails out. Maybe they do but it gets lost in all the junk.

[Buzpilot]

Originally Posted by machoo

I have CARS but i also subscribe to iRacing which is far superior in every way. I've been a paid member of iRacing for 3 years.

Thx, got iracing too, so this will save me from installing CARS, look too much like Moon physics to me.

Edit; Me on sunday driver practise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtcV6...feAUAAAAAAAAAA

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Buzpilot

Thx, got iracing too, so this will save me from installing CARS, look too much like Moon physics to me.

Edit; Me on sunday driver practise

Mmm, but the thing about Project Cars is that it's still just in alpha and it gets better every weekly build... So, I guess it will be able to give iRacing quite a match when it gets released. And the entry ticket of 10 Euro for junior is what you pay for iRacing every month

And in no way pCars is an arcade game... It's done by the same team that did Need for Speed Shift (which is the only good thing that happened to that franchise since Porsche 2000 ). This is their attempt at taking the Shift code which has a great graphics engine and do a simulator of it instead. In the graphics department they sure are in the front row, and when they get all the physics in place I guess it will be a great game - especially with the fresh approach to involving the community into how the game will evolve.

Guess I will have to play some iRacing now to see how good it is right now

[Rjel]

The video Buzpilot posted was incredibly smooth. I'll get raked over the coals for this, but my biggest issue with CoD and IL2 has always been the little micro stutters. No matter how much tweaking is done, they never seem to disappear completely. I know it's apples and oranges in comparison, but just once I would like a flight sim that seamlessly flows like that.