how do you effectively dogfight a spit with a 109 with equal E

[raaaid]

or you just run away and wait for an unware spit pilot heartman style

[mark1eo]

If you are in a 1V1 situation and co alt, I will try to extend enough to pull a hard turn 180 deg head on and take a shot. From there, if you have missed, you could go vertical and come down for possibly another head on or you can extend again.

Mind you team work is a much easier option

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by raaaid

how do you effectively dogfight a spit with a 109 with equal E?
or you just run away and wait for an unware spit pilot heartman style

Since Hartmann with over 350kills knew what he was doing (while you obviously not) think Hartmann's way

And since you are becoming an expert in turning words, your correct think process should be:
Q: How do you effectively dogfight a spit with a 109 with equal E?
A: You don't. You just run away and wait for a spit with less E...

ROFL!


~S~

[furbs]

If its a Spit2...bail out.

[FFCW_Urizen]

Where´s the fun in that .

[Kodoss]

As long as you stay above 350km/h TAS you should be able to outturn them.

Nice help to see how to fight the opponent and know your mashine, even if it's for the old IL-2.

[jg27_mc]

Originally Posted by raaaid

or you just run away and wait for an unware spit pilot heartman style

Hartmann style for me.

Originally Posted by furbs

If its a Spit2...bail out.

ROTFL! I would say it will happen most of the times...

Regards.

[TomcatViP]

You can always drag him in a slow speed fight where you hve an edge.

If it is a Spit IIA... call Voodoo online they will nail him for you (figurine) at any time of the day or throw him a charm.

[SNAFU]

Doesn´t that depend on your objective? I would differentiate options for certain tasks.

Opt. A: If you have the task to control a certain airspace and you have to no time to enter a long climb contest, but have to decide the situation quick go for nose-to-nose turn and straight into scissors, use you good roll rate and good low speed handling.

Opt B: If you have a clean surrounding with low wildcards probability and have the time and space, so no certain task to do, go for a nose-to-tail situation and trade angles for energy. Get out of his gun range and start climbing until you have enough energy to trade for good angles and repeat.

Opt. C: If you have no clean surrounding and a high wildcard probabilty, no certain task to do, just go for a nose-to-tail turn, push and dive for home.

As TomcatVip I would mostly choose Opt. A, If I just want to have fun.

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

You can always drag him in a slow speed fight where you hve an edge.

That would give you the advantage of surprise, because the common Spit-Pilot flys with full throttle set from take-off to landing. And a good roll rate of the 109 is the most underestimated advantage.

[jf1981]

Originally Posted by raaaid

or you just run away and wait for an unware spit pilot heartman style

The spit turns inside a 109, the negative G and a dive seems to be an often used technique during real time.

I never saw a 109 able to escape, but Spit Ia is limited in power at the time, so against that, you should try to manage your energy and you should get in a good position that is by mainting alt/gaining alt if you can.