Monitor - S27A950 or S27A850 ,which one?

[He111]

Hmmmmm, i'm on the horns of a dilemma .. ouch! Do I ; ..

(a) go for the Samsung S27A950 monitor with 1920 x 1080 resolution, 2 MS G-T-G response time, 120 Mhz frequency @ about $600 .. or

(b) go for the Samsung S27A850 monitor with 2560 X 1440 resolution, 5 MS G-T-G response time, ??? frequency @ about $800

The 850 has great resolution but am worried about the response time. Does anyone have this monitor, does it run CloD ok?

Thanks

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[Blackdog_kt]

I have a Dell 2209WA (22 inch IPS panel) and it also has a 5ms gray to gray response time. It's good enough to play flight sims and i also play team fortress 2 (a first person shooter) with no problems at all. The only way to get ghosting is to start up my head tracking and rapidly move my head from side to side at literally breackneck speeds, ie the limits of the monitor are way above the normal requirements of gameplay.

Try to find out what kind of input lag these monitors have as well, it's another important factor.

In the case that everything else is equal, go for the one you can afford or like best. Don't forget to calculate the increased cost of graphics card upgrades over time though. You'll need quite a beefy one to run the high resolution monitor and even if your current card runs everything ok, in 6-10 months it might have trouble running a newer game on that resolution.

[IvanK]

Running SA22450BW 5ms Response time no issues at all.

[He111]

The S27A850 runs at 60hz, does the SA22450BW and Dell 2209WA run at that ? I think 60Hz is a basic default ?

If I was going to buy a 24" inch screen then 1920 x 1080 might suffice but 27" really requires a higher resolution ? is that true? I sit about 2-3 feet away from the monitor.

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[bolox]

personally i'd say go for the higher res if sitting that far away.
currently using a 27" screen at similar distance and there's no way i'd be happy with a res below the 1920*1200 i'm running at that size/dist- YMMV

[Wolf_Rider]

The SA950 can be got for AUD$490 from JBHiFi/ OfficeWorks (at least in Sydney outlets) been looking at that one, myself

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by He111

The S27A850 runs at 60hz, does the SA22450BW and Dell 2209WA run at that ? I think 60Hz is a basic default ?

If I was going to buy a 24" inch screen then 1920 x 1080 might suffice but 27" really requires a higher resolution ? is that true? I sit about 2-3 feet away from the monitor.

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My Dell 2209WA is 60Hz, yes. All LCD/TFT monitors were using this standard until they started making new panels that support 120Hz.

The thing is, you don't need that much of a refresh rate on LCD monitors because they don't suffer from the flicker that characterized CRT monitors. On CRTs you needed the high refresh rates so that your eyes can't perceive the refresh (if they did, you saw flickering). For example, my old 17" Phillips CRT can do 85Hz at its max resolution and more than 100Hz at a bit lower ones, but it was actually important to have at least 75Hz back then.

Currently, the main reason to go for 120Hz with a TFT panel is if you want to try out that 3d vision stuff. However, most (if not all) of the currently available 120Hz panels are of the TN type: the so called "gaming" monitors (due to their fast response times), which suffer from poor color quality and viewing angles (compared to other panel types that is).

[GOZR]

Everything is relative .. working on a high rez monitor is cool.. playing on one is not so cool .. need ultra strong video card to play that high mostly when LCD's are real bad when non native resolutions.
I learned my lesson never again.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by He111

Hmmmmm, i'm on the horns of a dilemma .. ouch! Do I ; ..

(a) go for the Samsung S27A950 monitor with 1920 x 1080 resolution, 2 MS G-T-G response time, 120 Mhz frequency @ about $600 .. or

(b) go for the Samsung S27A850 monitor with 2560 X 1440 resolution, 5 MS G-T-G response time, ??? frequency @ about $800

The 850 has great resolution but am worried about the response time. Does anyone have this monitor, does it run CloD ok?

Thanks

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i wouldnt worry about the response time if i were you, its a minor issue that is not really relevant anymore (and hasnt been an issue for the better midrange monitors for 5 yrs or so). only the cheaper range of TN based gamer monitors is still hyped for their speed (often because their actual display quality is so much worse then normal midrange monitors which might be a few msec slower, and they have little else to boast about to the uninformed general public, so they use "speed" as a smokescreen for quality).

your biggest potential problem, for a pc system you will use both for gaming and general use, is the extra pixels your pc will need to push to display the higher pixel count in the higher resolution monitor. in my opinion the higher resolution is not worth while, it will cost you a small fortune in multiple gfx cards to try and game at that resolution. even if you have deep pockets, better save that potential extra cash to later go to a multi monitor setup to get better peripheral vision. a good monitor will also outlive many other components on your pc that you might need to upgrade over time (cpu and gpu) to stay in the performance zone needed for current games, and each time having to upgrade multiple gfx cards will get very expensive.

i have been using a dell 27' (1920 x 1200) for the last 5 years, and its a very good resolution for both general use and gaming. font sizes are about right in most programs (you can for ex display two A4 word documents or two web browsers side by side and have the text easy to read from normal viewing distance), and you have a significantly larger gaming window compared to 23' or 24' users who have the same resolution (and hence can use a wider FoV setting in il2/CoD).

also remember that ever since its inception in il2, and still with CoD today, some users have been using LOWER resolutions then their standard 1920 x 1200 (or 1080 often now) to try and improve frame rates and dot visibility, for people to deliberatly go for a system with 40% more pixels to push per same monitor size is maybe not the best choice right now (note: you could run the higher rez monitor at 1/2 is resolution potentially to improve fpsec, but that kinda defeats the purpose imho). also some gamers have even been using 40' or 50' tv screen lcd's at 1920 x 1080 in order to get better screen sizes (and better FoV's), and some gamers with high resolution 30' pc monitor lcd's have been running them at 1/2 resolution in oreder to get decent fpsec's in il2 (or be able to spot dot's of other aircraft).

one other thing to be aware of, it is possible the lower resolution model you quoted is using TN based technology for the panel, which would make it a 6 bit monitor (most mid range and better monitors are 8 bit color), and i would warn you against those lower quality "gamer" panel, partic at the premium prices when people think they are getting a "good" monitor.. dont be to quick in making a rushed impulse buy, but do your homework first. as a start maybe look at some of the good independent tech reviews at sites like prad.de etc.. other superficial reviews from most mainstream computer mag's are often superficial beatups of products made by advertisers in that same mag, so are often over rated by their reviewers because that is how the publishers make their money.

when i changed from using CRT's to LCD monitors years ago, i returned the first 2 lcd monitors i bought the next day because they were so much worse then the good viewsonic CRT i had been using the previous years. after that i held onto my money and did my homework for a few weeks, and then bought my first good lcd ( which i was happy with, and which was noticable better then the first 2 misbuy's i had made). some years after that i bought the larger 27' i am still using now (selected after lots of tech reviews), and i have been very happy with this one to.

remember, the hunt is much more fun then the kill and the end product you get you will have to live with for some years to come, long past your urgency to spend your money has died away

Edit: /\/\ How did I not see that post?

If you're going with the second monitor you have to remember at the native resolution you're going to have to push an extra 1,612,800 pixels. That's 77% of the first choice, and that's a hell of a lot of extra number crunching. Playing Clod on the first might mean being able to play everything close to max, and on the second one everything close to medium if you want to keep the native resolutions.