External sounds audible in cockpit with engine running?

I would like to learn what the community thinks about the fact that in cockpit and engine running we still can hear external sounds like the engines of other planes, flak explosions, ...

[CWMV]

Well I cant speak for the merlins but modern 109 Pilots talk of how quiet the 109 is, so ya why not.

[GOZR]

And missing actually the winds buffets !!!

[Madfish]

Originally Posted by CWMV

Well I cant speak for the merlins but modern 109 Pilots talk of how quiet the 109 is, so ya why not.

I voted: No, not hearing external sounds.

However, there is some sense in aboves post. Generally I'd prefer the sounds to be REALISTIC

If that means not hearing or hearing external sounds in specific planes I don't care.

What I find utterly disturbing is opening the canope and hearing literally all sounds around me. Wind needs to be much stronger and probably the engine as well.

The sound engine could be much better and to some degree I fear that some will cheat and exploit this again like in the old IL-2.

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Can't vote as the questions are loaded towards a specific outcome for the poll.

You should have had. "Yes, but only where sound(s) could realistically be heard under the ambient conditions."

Cheers!

! THIS !

[CWMV]

Realistic in that you can hear whats going on around your plane, right?

And gun sounds are a no brainer. I guess that most just haven't been around the types of weaponry we have in game but there is very little on this earth that can totally drown out the sound of an M240b, M2, or 25mm cannon. And Id bet dollars to doughnuts that these piston engines aren't on that oh so short list.

[David198502]

im still not really sure if its realistic or not, to hear outside noise while beeing in the cockpit...can you hear other planes when they are really close in reality?can you hear gunfire from other planes?should you be able to perceive explosions when planes hit the ground?if all that is not realistic, then i would vote for make the sounds optional, cause im all for realism and would therefore play without them, but they are really nice and it would be a pity to delete them completely.

so i didnt vote

[JG5_emil]

It's absurd. I've flown real aircraft and once the engine is running and my headset was on I couldn't hear anything outside the cockpit

That's also my impression. And I was just sitting in a lousy Cessna ...

I dunno however if one could hear one's own machine gun firing as the Cessna had none installed

That's why I added the option gun sounds.

If you want to know if a fighter pilot could have heared a pilot behind him ask a veteran. Oh wait this was done many times. Not one of all accounts that I have read ever mentioned that they could hear other planes with their own engine running. In contrary they all concorde in that they could not hear it.

I however concede that the first option is badly phrased. Blame it on me not being perfect in English.

[ElAurens]

I've flown in a B-25 both in front (flight engineer's position) during run up, and in one of the waist gunner positions in flight.

Absolutely the loudest thing I have ever done.

If you were not on the intercom headset and wanted to talk to someone you had to SCREAM directly into their uncovered ear to be understood above the din.

I'm sure you could hear the sounds of the guns if you were the operator, but if you were the pilot and the waist or tail gunner opened up you would feel it (possibly) but not hear it. Even when we were taxiing out to the active, nearby civilian light aircraft could not be heard. Standing outside of a warbird is in no way comparable to being inside one. By comparison, the cockpit of a Cessna 172 is as quiet as a Rolls Royce Silver Cloud.

[Upthair]

The tail SONAR again for cheating in IL-2 COD? No! for the sake of 'simulation'. A new generation of flight simulation should by no means let its sounds go arcade.

The wonderful fly-by sounds can be heard when the outside view is chosen, offline and online on an outside view enabled server. So those sounds are not lost if people can't hear them in cockpit.