The last "Uber" Plane?

Whinner · #1 02-02-2008, 03:14 PM

The P-51 - The last "Uber" Plane?

Seeing how the release time for the last patch is nearing, I'd like to ask 1c to check the numbers/code for the climb rate on the P-51. It just doesn't seem right. Everything else about the plane seems/feels right, but its climb rate is unnatural, almost like it has rocket assist. I know it's just one persons opinon and I will get flamed for asking, (Thats why I chose Whinner for a forum name) but I'm just asking that it be "checked". Afterall this (4.09) will be the "last" patch.

Sure it could be pilot skill, but I don't think so. Every pilot I've encountered flying the Mustang can climb it the same way. Either way, if any time can be squeezed out for a "check-up" this pilot wold appreciate it. Meanwhile, I will gladly accept 1c's final Fb patch no matter what.

Thanks 1c for all you've done and put up with during FB's life. I wish you good luck with your next flight sim.

Brain32 · #2 02-02-2008, 03:27 PM

ROFLOLOL best forum-suicide ever

BTW you could check the numbers by doing a test and comparing to RL data, then if in-consistency would be shown you would only be masacred, this way...R.I.P.

Feuerfalke · #3 02-02-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brain32

ROFLOLOL best forum-suicide ever

Well said

Whinner · #4 02-02-2008, 03:47 PM

LMAO! Some one had to bring it up!

Meanwhile as for the "numbers". Don't have'em, don't know where to get'em, but I'm sure somebody out there, on either side, who has even less of a life than I and could do a 4.08/Real Stats climb rate comparison. I'd except the numbers from a valid source.

Former_Older · #5 02-02-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Whinner

LMAO! Some one had to bring it up!

Meanwhile as for the "numbers". Don't have'em, don't know where to get'em, but I'm sure somebody out there, on either side, who has even less of a life than I and could do a 4.08/Real Stats climb rate comparison. I'd except the numbers from a valid source.

Hi

30 seconds with my favorite search engine got me this:

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...stangtest.html

It's a series of reports on...almost every model P-51 you might care to name.

Are these rates of climb not in line with what you see in game? How many feet per minute did you assume the plane could achieve, and at what altitude?

Finding this info is actually fairly simple, and can help address any "gut feelings" of incorrect FM performance by putting them into an historical context, thus translating them from "gut feelings" into "useful data"

Print out the tests, keep 'em handy, and fly a few Mustangs. Then compare RoC sim vs. real tests from the war. Should kill a few hours

PBNA-Boosher · #6 02-02-2008, 09:51 PM

Keep in mind, the P-51 could have been going faster than you at the time. I often wonder if people think that just because they're in, say, an Me-262 going 500 kph, that they should be faster than a P-51 going 500 kph. It's still 500 kph, no matter how you match it, both planes are going the same speed. Based on this information, if the P-51 is in an advanced energy state and you're in a late Bf-109, udging by some other posts I've seen, some people believe that just because the 109 is a 109, it should outclimb (even with inferior energy) the P-51 no matter the situation.

This is in no way a remark on you Whinner. Chances are that the P-51's you were trying to catch were in a higher energy state than you, and therefore out zoom you every time. It's the smart way to drive a 51 and often yields good results.