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Old 04-07-2011, 08:34 PM
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I'm trying to up the speed of the Bf109E-3 so that I can catch Spit IIas at sea level. The most I can get it to (from 500m to 2,000m) is 400km/h on the clock. I've been playing with the boost settings even using WEP with ATA at 1.45 and rpm at just under 3,000, then played with the pitch.

Any tips for getting it faster? Thanks

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Old 04-07-2011, 10:27 PM
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:33 PM
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:22 PM
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I started ranting about non-CEM MP server's. About how the BF109E performance is nerfed. It is but I did some research just after on the planes.

It turns out that the Spitfire could fly faster than the BF109 at level flight. Could dive faster. Obviously out-turn it, and if I remember rightly, could climb better too.

It was said that the German pilots would rely on their wingman when dealing with the Spitfire.

The BF109E did perform better at high altitude though.

I'll try to find the article again as perhaps it's information wasn't truely correct, but it was just a random google search. Sorry for no link.

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Old 04-07-2011, 11:35 PM
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I started ranting about non-CEM MP server's. About how the BF109E performance is nerfed. It is but I did some research just after on the planes.

It turns out that the Spitfire could fly faster than the BF109 at level flight. Could dive faster. Obviously out-turn it, and if I remember rightly, could climb better too.

It was said that the German pilots would rely on their wingman when dealing with the Spitfire.

The BF109E did perform better at high altitude though.

I'll try to find the article again as perhaps it's information wasn't truely correct, but it was just a random google search. Sorry for no link.
Salute

The 109 was faster over about 20,000, where they normally were in their escort role.

They had better dive acceleration, which was added to by the fact they could just 'bunt' their nose down, whereas the Spit had to roll inverted before diving otherwise Negative G cutout became a factor.

Climb depended on the altitude.

Of course, the speed advantage for the Spitfire down low is for the properly modelled +12 boost Spitfire I and II. The way the Spits are modelled now at +6, you can't catch a 109.

Although AI of all varieties will outfly humans and get much better performance. That is why when you take a Spit II as a human and try to catch an AI 109, you won't. And if you switch to the 109, and chase the Spit, you still can't catch your opponent.

At least that's my experience, I'd be interested in hearing others explain how to get more performance.

Of course, the Spit I's in the game, both the standard and Ia are completely porked. Both have the dual speed props, which is not accurate. 100% of the Spit I's with De Havilland dual speed props were converted to De Havilland constant speed props, most by the end of the first week of July, the rest by the end of August. Plus all new models coming out of the factory had Rotol constant speed props factory installed.
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:37 AM
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It turns out that the Spitfire could fly faster than the BF109 at level flight. Could dive faster. Obviously out-turn it, and if I remember rightly, could climb better too.
LOL , According to your words, let me ask you one question: What is "level" flight for you?, flying low?.

In that case there you go, have some additional reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_level
http://avstop.com/ac/flighttrainghan...velflight.html

You know , listening to you it turns out that Spitfire rocked even more than in IL2 1946! . FGS

S!

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Old 04-08-2011, 08:51 AM
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That's pedantic old bean.

Straight and level flight, and low level. Seeing as you seem more knowledgable in aviation terminology I would have thought you'd understand it; instead of being condescending.

At least I gave you a laugh.
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:03 PM
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I started ranting about non-CEM MP server's. About how the BF109E performance is nerfed. It is but I did some research just after on the planes.

It turns out that the Spitfire could fly faster than the BF109 at level flight. Could dive faster. Obviously out-turn it, and if I remember rightly, could climb better too.

It was said that the German pilots would rely on their wingman when dealing with the Spitfire.

The BF109E did perform better at high altitude though.

I'll try to find the article again as perhaps it's information wasn't truely correct, but it was just a random google search. Sorry for no link.
Sorry but that sounds like crap, in reality the 109 was faster than the Spit and it could dive faster, the Spit could fly tighter turns and was more agile in dogfights. I learned that years ago from a real pilot who was flying in the Battle of Britain the 109. If it is not like that in this sim, it is simulated wrong and needs to be patched!
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Old 05-06-2011, 03:18 PM
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I'm trying to up the speed of the Bf109E-3 so that I can catch Spit IIas at sea level. The most I can get it to (from 500m to 2,000m) is 400km/h on the clock. I've been playing with the boost settings even using WEP with ATA at 1.45 and rpm at just under 3,000, then played with the pitch.

Any tips for getting it faster? Thanks

Hood
You should not be able to catch any Spit at sea level. The Spitfire was known to be faster than the 109 below 20,000ft.

I think at the moment the 109 is actually faster than the Spitfire below 20,000ft which needs a bit of adjusting.
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Old 05-06-2011, 03:36 PM
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this is completely wrong.

Pls re-read the according literature.

I might understand tht you refer to various MkI with 12lb perf charts found across the web but pls mind that :
1. some of the curve in those charts are questionable (flat, un-daunted etc...)
2. "emergency power rating " are for use in case of emergency.

In time of war you don't land back with a burnt engine each time you hd to climb above 12Kft...

Unless you want to be the absolute top scoring ace of your squad in potatoes peeling

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