Central MS FFB2 topic - repair, settings and mods

[Azimech]

If it doesn't exist yet, I think it's a good idea to have as much info, links to other topics, settings, repairs and possible mods in one topic for our favorite stick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztQvK287y04&NR=1

[swiss]

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Ok, just went for some evaluation flights:

I think it's broken.

Ffb comes and goes whenever it likes, sometimes the stick stays ffb free for several seconds.
The ffb itself does feel like you were moving the stick over some tiny knobs or something.
Actually unflyable.

Win7 Problem? I'll give it a try on the xp machine later this afternoon.

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Update:

* FF=1 in config
* FF disabled in GUI(seems to disable the "rumble" effect, resistance is still there)
* calibrated stick
* Power light is on, didn't see any flickering or dimming


I guess(and/or hope) it works now the way it should, of course I can't compare.

Should the resistance feel like your were moving soft plastic over the coil of an e-motor?

[KG26_Alpha]

Hi

For adjusting the tension on a MSFFB2 for Vista/Win7

You can edit an existing ffe file or create a new one and name it accordingly for IL2.

Force feedback files are located in the main IL21946 directory.

EG: Spring adjustment using the "Spring" ffe file.

Open fedit>effect>insert>spring>right click spring2d1>properties

from here you can create the axes timing saturation profiles

I'm not saying its the easiest thing to get your head around at first but you need to experiment with it
You need to get stuck into the program and try various things in there to see how it works

It simple and effective once you have spent a few mins with it.

EDIT>>

This file as an example of lowered tension by 50% .

Don't forget to put your default "spring.ffe" somewhere safe whilst testing.

Fedit and test file with backup >> http://www.mediafire.com/?0v99r1lbhhmeblh

[CharveL]

If you are getting intermittent FFB - as in, dropping out and going slack - I would check the IR sensor first. It detects if your hand is actually on the stick and stops all FFB if not.

[swiss]

I'm going to open it.
(exploratory operation, lol)

So far I see only 3 screws in the base, but there must be more - are they covered with the rubber thingies? edit: yes

IR sensor? Cool, where is it supposed to be located? edit: in front of the handle

[rakinroll]

Guys, i have MSFFB2 but it requires midi port. How can i use it via usb? Midi to usb changer did not work.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by swiss

Post moved from original thread:


Ok, just went for some evaluation flights:

I think it's broken.

Ffb comes and goes whenever it likes, sometimes the stick stays ffb free for several seconds.
The ffb itself does feel like you were moving the stick over some tiny knobs or something.
Actually unflyable.

Win7 Problem? I'll give it a try on the xp machine later this afternoon.

**********

Update:

* FF=1 in config
* FF disabled in GUI(seems to disable the "rumble" effect, resistance is still there)
* calibrated stick
* Power light is on, didn't see any flickering or dimming


I guess(and/or hope) it works now the way it should, of course I can't compare.

Should the resistance feel like your were moving soft plastic over the coil of an e-motor?

The only way I can get the MSFF2 centering tension is disable FF in the GUI with windows 7 64bit. I don't need the FF effects, but the centering tension is critical. As you already know your hand must cover the sensors on the stick will flying. I also find its best to set the elevators, ailerons, and rudders with a gradual slope from around 30 to 100 in the input section.

[Woke Up Dead]

Originally Posted by swiss

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* FF disabled in GUI(seems to disable the "rumble" effect, resistance is still there)

Sorry for replying to an old thread, but this caught my eye. Did you figure out a way to get rid of the machine gun and cannon shakes without turning off the force feedback from a stall warning? How do I access the GUI?

Thanks,

Woke Up Dead

[Sully_pa]

I have a FFB2 usb And I'm trying to edit a specific File ....what I want is to have guns and punch and what not but I want the spring to be constant to center....What I mean is I don't want it to lighten up when slow or landing or in a stall fight etc. Can anyone help with that? Thanks

[jameson]

Sully, I think most of us turn off the return to centre forces and set the sensitivity of the stick to all 100's. It will feel very different to a constant force spring stick but has great advantages for controlling the aircraft, you can fly right up to the point of stall with the wings buffeting and feel that through the stick, useful for 109's and spits. The game already has built in return to centre forces and the M$ one in the original stick software isn't required. When this is switched on you have two return to centre forces applied to the stick and it lessens the feel of control, (felt like mixing cement IIRC!). The first time I turned mine off it was a revelation to me and 'flying' started to match RL accounts and make sense. The controls will go light at certain times, but that's how it is and how you can understand what the plane is doing and hence the advantage of FF. I'd stick with it and relearn to fly with stick forces off. If COD's FM is as hard as Luthier has implied you'll need any edge you can get. Best of luck.