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Old 01-19-2011, 06:56 PM
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Default I Want my 4.09 Spit FM's back.........

..............in 4.10 'to be released' fix patch! Pleeeze?..... otherwise I will throw my toys out of the pram! Launched a Dgen campaign for the Seafire this week (in 4.10) and the only thing it had in common with 4.09 is the variant....
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:05 PM
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Let me guess... yours flies backwards?
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:21 PM
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I'm curious... What kind of testing have you done and what are the results. Your complaint is lacking any sort of detail.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:35 PM
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Excessive trim needed as mentioned by others, engine performance is down, cornering speed and stall characteristics make it very twitchy compared to 4.09. In a nutshell it doesn't handle as well as in 4.09. I was so suprised that I launched the campaign in 4.09 to compare with 4.10 and it is very different! Why, after 10 years, was it necessary to change the FM of the Spits?

And pleeze......it's not a 'cissyfire' so no derogatory comments.......
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:37 PM
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I couldn't wait for this moment since years...

And it's only the begin!!!

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Why, after 10 years, was it necessary to change the FM of the Spits?
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A whole generation of pilots learned to treasure the Spitfire for its delightful response to aerobatic manoeuvres and its handiness as a dogfighter. Iit is odd that they had continued to esteem these qualities over those of other fighters in spite of the fact that they were of only secondary importance tactically.Thus it is doubly ironic that the Spitfire’s reputation would habitually be established by reference to archaic, non-tactical criteria.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:41 PM
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And it's only the begin!!!





yeah......I bet the Yaks and La's don't get screwed and always turn on a dime.....but they're Russian.........
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:44 PM
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yeah......I bet the Yaks and La's don't get screwed and always turn on a dime.....but they're Russian.........
You're right! Change the LA's FMs too!!!

PS: I'm joking...
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A whole generation of pilots learned to treasure the Spitfire for its delightful response to aerobatic manoeuvres and its handiness as a dogfighter. Iit is odd that they had continued to esteem these qualities over those of other fighters in spite of the fact that they were of only secondary importance tactically.Thus it is doubly ironic that the Spitfire’s reputation would habitually be established by reference to archaic, non-tactical criteria.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:33 PM
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And it's only the begin!!!



quoto, quoto
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:57 PM
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To me the only thing that feels off and way off at that, is the position of the aerilon trim tabs. it always wants to roll, but the opposite way to the torque. At full power it almost reaches the position of not rolling due to the torque, but at any sort of cruise settings the roll is amplified, due to the reduced torque to cancel it out.

still easy to fight in, just much harder to do formation in.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:18 PM
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The russian Lend-Lease spits/hurri's didn't receive that kit. And the kit only worked at full throttle. Nice though, the streaks of black smoke in 4.10. I often see them appear and for a moment I think someone has shot that plane, but it's just the dumb AI doing the negative G's. That's another reason engines had to warm up before take off, you flood that cold block with a sea of petrol and you've got fouled sparky's in no time.

If I had it my way, those engines would've gotten fuel injection right away. No chargecooling in the supercharger that way, but there's nothing wrong with MW50.
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