Trims and Forcefeedback

[recoilfx]

I am not sure if this has already been answered, but I have a question about the trim functions in BOB.

Currently in IL2, trims affect your virtual stick and the flight surfaces - they don't move your force feedback stick - the stick only gets stiff/sloppy according to airspeed. As I understand it, real life trims physically move your stick.

Will this kind of trimming be implemented in BOB?

Also, is there a chance that DT can implement this feature to IL2 in the future?

Thanks.

[Splitter]

Just to be clear, when you trim a real aircraft, you usually put it in the attitude you want and then trim until pressure is taken off the stick/pedals. That's what makes trimming a real aircraft easier than trimming a virtual aircraft.

As to how it is implemented on IL-2, I can't answer that. I have never fond FFB to work well in any sim and have given up on it until someone comes up with a good solution.

Splitter

[recoilfx]

Originally Posted by Splitter

Just to be clear, when you trim a real aircraft, you usually put it in the attitude you want and then trim until pressure is taken off the stick/pedals. That's what makes trimming a real aircraft easier than trimming a virtual aircraft.

Splitter

Right, my understanding is that when the pressure is taken off, the stick stays at the same place, not returning to the center - this is not the behavior on IL2 with force feedback sticks, the stick returns to center regardless of the trim settings.

[Azimech]

Seems you're right. And it would prevent the trim-on-an-axis-cheat (which I use as well )

[recoilfx]

Originally Posted by Azimech

Seems you're right. And it would prevent the trim-on-an-axis-cheat (which I use as well )

It's a bit less of an issue now that DT has implemented structural damage by G force at 4.10. Turning faster than spec should theoretically penalize your performance.

[Azimech]

Theoretically, yes.

One of the things FF in IL2 doesn't do but FSX does is oscillation and/or gust feedback into the stick. I hated it in FSX, until I just got the insight that it is realistic. I'm unaware of any rudder FF systems (anyway my MS FF2 doesn't have it).

[greypeace]

moved from wrong place

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For me it is a very interesting subject because I am in the process of designing my own stick with force feed back .

I successfully ,so far, am receiving the X and Y componant from IL2 .(I did not check if it is proportional to air speed or to the square of it)
(I for now , as a test ,am ONLY modulating the intensity of an LED (PWM) with this signal)

It is now left to me the enjoying work to drive the Stick.
I can do it anyway that would be the closest to reality
As it is some 35 years that I have n' t used a real stick I have forgotten what it is like and am open to any suggestion.....
It would be interesting to get the designing team of BOB to answer this question
I have asked if BOB will handle FFB like IL2 but have RX no answer so far
I must be swamped by the COLOUR of the EXHAUST gas FLAMES actual topic

Looking forward to a continued interest in THIS topic

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