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Old 02-26-2010, 12:51 AM
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Default Is realistic the new black?

I, like many of my fellow Arcade Top Gun Graduates (Class of '09), have recently been playing a lot of realsitic online games. It's a bit of a revalation as to how good this mode is, very under rated. Watch out for the class of '10!

(The big red stall warning fades away after a bit...)

Do any of the sim guys play Realistic? It'd be nice to get some of the top Arcaders vs the top Simmers, in a half your rules half ours kinda way....
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Old 02-26-2010, 12:57 AM
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i'm one of the simmers who have actually been playing more than the normal amount of Realistic, mainly because it's all there is, but i do enjoy a bit of realistic from time to time. Always miss looking at my beautiful plane from outside when i'm in sim
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Old 02-26-2010, 08:19 AM
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only when I feel like breaking the sound barrier without a sonic boom
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Old 02-26-2010, 08:46 AM
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only when I feel like breaking the sound barrier without a sonic boom

Is there a plane that'll do 768mph in realistic? I've not seen it.
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Old 02-26-2010, 09:08 AM
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It's with a tinge of sadness I see this thread. It does indeed appear realistic is the place to be. I like it lots, more challenging handling, better gun damage etc. But there are some things I hate. Dogfight becomes a daisy chain and he who tags on back end wins. Lots of kills that count as crashes. Worst of all the dreaded head on guns blazing suicide attack. I hate this technique in arcade but in realistic it's blood boiling. Team battle works a lot better than dogfight as these problems are reduced by cover and team work. Also smaller dogfights with freinds works well.
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Old 02-26-2010, 09:34 AM
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And now you're just the smallest step away from being full time simmers
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Old 02-26-2010, 09:47 AM
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It's with a tinge of sadness I see this thread. It does indeed appear realistic is the place to be. I like it lots, more challenging handling, better gun damage etc. But there are some things I hate. Dogfight becomes a daisy chain and he who tags on back end wins. Lots of kills that count as crashes. Worst of all the dreaded head on guns blazing suicide attack. I hate this technique in arcade but in realistic it's blood boiling. Team battle works a lot better than dogfight as these problems are reduced by cover and team work. Also smaller dogfights with freinds works well.
I didn't mean to make you sad

The caterpillar of death is bit of a bummer, If someones repeatedly head on against me I'll do slow barrel rolls and then at the top of the roll just before he flys by pull back hard. If it's timed right you can be directly on their six within 5 - 6 seconds of them passing you. If you do it with someone on your six at the time you tend to die tho..

I think the caterpillar comes from having too short a respawn time, there's very few good defensive pilots online it's all attack attack so they join the queue and see how many kills they can get before the inevitable happens.

For all it's flaws I still find the dogfighting in Realistic feels more authentic than the tree top stuff in simutation.
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Old 02-26-2010, 09:38 AM
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head on the nail
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Old 02-26-2010, 04:39 PM
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Agreed. I flew a sim game after the realistic late last night and it was all done at 0 altitude. I got so frustrated I climbed to 3000 with a hope the others would follow but no joy. I just ended up on my own watching specs on the ground killing each other. This kind of thing removes a whole axis from play and feels more like a fps. I could get into sim but only if there was an altitude limit.
I am back off to arcade mode. See you on the beach
The best way to solve the treetop dogfighting problem if you wish you head up to altitude is to host or convince the host to set poor/rain/storm weather. Visibility will be tragic at lower levels, so people should get the hint to head above the clouds if they are a sim regular.

Besides, nothing is better for me in a dogfight than shooting a wing off an opponent and watching them disappear into the bad weather (whether I get kill credit or not).

More weather/match variety and teamwork on sim matches is much needed, but to get there we have to have a good group of sim-willing pilots. Here's hoping that realistic is the new black, and that sim will be in season soon.

Cheers.
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Old 02-26-2010, 05:24 PM
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At the end of the day I will play any mode, just as long as there are players about to shoot. I have noticed a gradual decrease in players over the last couple of weeks.

I was talking to Ratman the other day and he said the game had lost its shine to him. He is one of us arcade lot shifting into realistic for a change though so at least he is still playing. He said realistic had given the game a new lease of life as its a challenge again. I agree with him on that and I reckon some more matches we can start to develop tactics to combat the daisy chaining and head ons
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