Bangladesh 1971 Air Combat Simulator request to Oleg

[zakkandrachoff]

Bangladesh 1971 Air Combat Simulator request to Oleg



I am requesting a 1971 Bangladesh air combat simulator. This will can be the best simulator ever made. jet fighters of the middle cold war fighting each other. Air-to-Air combats whit missiles, cannons and rockets . Naval Battles and tanks Battles like Kursk (okey, not so bigs)

India Air Force:

*MiG-21FL missile K-13 (AA-2) (poor copy of the American Sidewinders) or R-60 (AA-8 Aphid),
*Sukhoi Su-7BMKs (missile K-13???)
*HF-24 Marut (ex-Pulqui III) (whit matra magic R.530??)
*Hunter F.Mk.56s
*Hawker Siddeley Gnat F.Mk.1 " Ajeet"
*Mystere IVA
*Hawker Sea Hawk in the carrier aircraft INS Vikrant
*Canberra B (I).58s

Pakistan Air Force:
*F-104 Starfighter (AIM-9B Sidewinder missile)
*Mirage-IIIs (missile Matra R550 Magic & Matra R.530)
*Shenyang F-6 (MiG-19P Chinese copy) AIM-9 Sidewinder missile
*F-86 Sabre Mk.6s (version F whit AIM-9B Sidewinders)
*Martin B-57B Canberras Night Bombers
*Lockheed T-33As (training plane)

this could be a nice air combat simulator.
some images;
Indian MIG-21



Indian SU-7
[IMG]www.acig.org/artman/uploads/iaf_su-7bmk_b911.jpg[/IMG]

Indian HF-24 Marut


Indian Hunter F.Mk.56s



Indian Gnat


Indian Mystere IVA


Indian Hawker Sea Hawk in the carrier aircraft INS Vikrant

Indian Canberra B (I).58s


Pakistani F-104 Starfighter


Pakistani Mirage-III


Pakistani Shenyang F-6 (MiG-19P)


Pakistani F-86 Sabre


Pakistani Martin B-57B Canberras Night Bombers


My only hope is that Oleg read this and promise that in some future he goanna work in this and not in some Vietnam, Israely or crappy modern airwar simulator.

[zakkandrachoff]

This are some paints(sorry, not photos, this is not like vietnam or gulf war)





















































lbuchele SimHQ Member Said: "Great post zakk.
Classic jets,early missiles (you have to know how to fire them in the right envelope and pray for hit something)
I´m sure that WW2 combat fans will like to fight in fifties or sixties jets.
Those was still pure fighters relying in brute force from it´s jet engines and guns for the most of it´s kills.
Modern jet combat is not for me because BVR missiles kill (maybe not the early AIM-7) the fun and modern heat-seekers can do a kill no matter the skills of the pilots who fire them."

Tarnsman SimHQ Member Said: "Alot of WW2 jocks from all sides continued to fight into the 1960s ( in their 20s in WW2 and their 40s in the Cold War). Im totaly on board with Oleg bringing his vision to this era."


Oleg, THIS is the really FORGOTTEN BATTLES

[zakkandrachoff]

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[drafting]

Wow, that is very interesting! I didn't really know anything at all about the conflict till you just posted this, so regardless of whether you convince anyone to make a game, thanks for the history lesson!

edit. ...and that'd be a very unique plane setup!

[Romanator21]

Probably not for a few years at least. After BoB will be Korea, and Oleg has hinted at some other "forgotten" WWII theaters. If Oleg and Ilya split after BoB is done, then there is a tiny chance of seeing it after Korea.

[AndyJWest]

From Wikipedia
Bangladesh Liberation War:

The Indian Air Force carried out several sorties against Pakistan, and within a week, IAF aircraft dominated the skies of East Pakistan. It achieved near-total air supremacy by the end of the first week as the entire Pakistani air contingent in the east, PAF No.14 Squadron, was grounded due to Indian airstrikes

A horrific conflict, but not of any great significance in terms of air warfare. Hardly a priority for air combat simulations I'd have thought.

[Oleg Maddox]

We don't plan move in the 1970th.
Our main area - WWII and nearest around time. There we are still specialistis of Hi End class.

[airmalik]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

We don't plan move in the 1970th.
Our main area - WWII and nearest around time. There we are still specialistis of Hi End class.

Hi Oleg,

That wasn't a surprising response. I guess the limited market appeal means if it ever gets developed it'll be by a third party.

I love modern machinery but I hate self guiding missiles.

I'm with you on this. Unpredictable missiles, fast airplanes and low level gun fights for me!

[zakkandrachoff]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

We don't plan move in the 1970th.
Our main area - WWII and nearest around time. There we are still specialistis of Hi End class.

buu

i will ask DCS people, maybe they will get some interest.

I hate strike fighters 2. Only f#### judies planes can be flyable. And graphics are crappy. Very arcade sim.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Don't even try it.

DCS tries to push it as modern as military contracts can.

There is virtually no interest in making another simulator brand, apparently. They're working in military-grade simulators, Lock On (2.0, just to finish it) and, the most expected, future DCS titles (currently DCS: A-10C).

As well as Maddox Games area is around the middle of 20th century, Eagle Dynamics plays it right in late 90's and specially 21st century air warfare, mainly without a fixed scenario, only proposed situations. This gives more possibilities if your creative.

Asking them to develop a whole new sim on the 70's is just non-sense. Bangladesh just isn't a very interesting war in terms of air combat, or at least not as interesting as having modern NATO & Russian military equipment put against each other. Maybe (and just maybe) if it involved a modern engagement of those countries, things would get more interesting, and it would involve many planes seen in DCS & Lock On.

This would simulate quite an interesting conflict, something really worth a simulator (still, there are still many things to come before a new scenario in DCS).

Pakistan has, in active service: F-16 (A/B, AM/BM & C/D being delivered), Mirage III & 5, F-7s, A-5s and Erieyes (plus transports, trainers and transport helicopters).

Seeing these aircraft meeting India's MiG-21 Bisons, MiG-27UPG, MiG-29S/SMT, Su-20MKI, Mirage 2000H, Jaguars, A-50s and Mi-25/35 (and transports & trainers) would be some fun, for sure.

But still, it's always better to simulate NATO vs. Russia, specially because all (or at least most) of the equipment India & Pakistan has was bought from either a NATO member or Russia (except for a few, these being either Chinese, home-built or imported from non-NATO countries).