Firefox...not the browser :-)

[dkwookie]

I just saw Firefox on telly, first time I have seen it in ages. I remember sneaking in to see this at the cinema when it was released. I was well under age for it but bluffed it through to get in.
I think this was the first film to trully fire up my enthusiasm for aerial combat, that dogfight between the two firefoxes at the end blew me away at the time. I really wanted to play a game with that dogfight. Surprised how well the fx hold up after all these years. Some great manuvers in there and it still gets the pulse racing when they drop down guns on in the canyon.
So anyone else got a fav dogfight from films?

[flynlion]

Battle of Briatain is still my favorite airplane movie. No special effects or trick photography, just lotsa realy cool airplanes making lotsa noise
My Dad took me to see it when it first came out ('68?) and I've loved flying ever since.

Of coarse, the original comedy "Airplane" is also tough to beat LoL

[winny]

This is actually harder than I thought it would be... Battle of Britain is a good shout, Anyone seen tora tora tora? There's some good stuff in that. It's old tho.

Oh... I know.. Return of the Jedi.

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by dkwookie

I just saw Firefox on telly, first time I have seen it in ages. I remember sneaking in to see this at the cinema when it was released. I was well under age for it but bluffed it through to get in.
I think this was the first film to trully fire up my enthusiasm for aerial combat, that dogfight between the two firefoxes at the end blew me away at the time. I really wanted to play a game with that dogfight. Surprised how well the fx hold up after all these years. Some great manuvers in there and it still gets the pulse racing when they drop down guns on in the canyon.
So anyone else got a fav dogfight from films?

I remember that movie... it had Clint Eastwood in it as a veteran tortured by flashbacks, sent to the USSR to steal their super-advanced new plane that could be controlled by the pilot's thoughts (!!!) Back during the Cold War, there were endless rumors about secret technology the USSR was developing. Firefox was based in part on speculation about the Mig-25 foxbat, which isn't a dogfighter at all, of course in the movie the planes moved at high speed and impossible g's too. I remember Clint Eastwood stole the Firefox with the regular controls, and so the Russians sent the other one which was fully functional. And the spy who helped him steal the plane shot himself in the head.

The Soviets made fun of Firefox and the Hollywood Rambo genre in general with their movie "Solo Voyage" (одиночное плавание) which featured an American special forces vet tortured by funny flashbacks of people eating rice in Vietnam. And the heroes flew around in a little Ka-27 chopper.

My favorite dogfighting movie is still the Blue Max, cause it has the most accurate fighting. There was also a good descending spiral in Tora! Tora! Tora! when the two Americans took off to fight the Zeros. I haven't seen the Red Baron yet, but I've heard it's good.

I thought the fighting in Top Gun was pretty lame. Most of it was just a montage of shots strung together without really making sense.

Worst air combat movie I've seen in recent years was Stealth.

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by kozzm0

I thought the fighting in Top Gun was pretty lame. Most of it was just a montage of shots strung together without really making sense.

Worst air combat movie I've seen in recent years was Stealth.

Yes, Stealth was a horrible film, but I thought the actual dogfights in the film were very good in an unrealistic ace combat kind of way (turns of 9 million G's)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQoii...eature=related

In Mexican you don't have to listen to the garbage script coming out their mouths lol (also the video quality was better than the engish on youtube.)

[edal86]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

In Mexican you don't have to listen to the garbage script coming out their mouths lol (also the video quality was better than the engish on youtube.)

we speak spanish Amigo

[trk29]

Originally Posted by dkwookie

I just saw Firefox on telly, first time I have seen it in ages. I remember sneaking in to see this at the cinema when it was released. I was well under age for it but bluffed it through to get in.
I think this was the first film to trully fire up my enthusiasm for aerial combat, that dogfight between the two firefoxes at the end blew me away at the time. I really wanted to play a game with that dogfight. Surprised how well the fx hold up after all these years. Some great manuvers in there and it still gets the pulse racing when they drop down guns on in the canyon.
So anyone else got a fav dogfight from films?

Thanks for the recommendation I just added it to my netflix que.

[Raw Kryptonite]

I love Firefox, despite the cheesy flashbacks and "think in Russian!" thing.
Best to watch it as a spy flick with some cool stealth fighters than a "flight" movie. Good times and a damn cool looking fighter.

[Lexandro]

The funny thing about the film is that most of the design of the aircraft was pretty much "cutting edge" real tech at the time. The forward canards for instance, and the cockpit instruments and controls. The plane had FLIR/AG&AA passive radar and active radar, analogue and digital read outs, rear aspect cam, had an angular design like the F117 (implying stealth), super cruise engines, internal weapon bays (again implying stealth).

What the film really showed was that the US was already way beyond the Russians in aircraft technology thinking and they didnt even realise it. They were assuming that the Russian boffins were near to or keeping pace with them on development.

[edal86]

I saw Battle of Britain and Tora Tora Tora (tora tora was great), I still need to see Blue Max and Firefox. I also have being waiting for the Red Baron to come out (it says "in theatres April" :S), I saw Flyboys lol.

There is Red Tails coming out in 2010, and I just noticed that there a movie about the Tuskegee Airmen already titled "Tuskegee Airmen" odd (came out 1995, just found it on youtube too, popcorn ready hehe)

Weird as it may be, the first aerial combat movie I saw was Independence Day lol (poor old man, his missile jammed)