common now you hot dogs...

[Tudorp15]

Now I dont like to whine much.. but, I want to play the game, even if I aint so good at it.. I get into team battles and I simply am not very good at the dog fight. My thing is strike type of things.. I fly pretty good, but just can't keep an opponent in my sites long enough to get the kill... I was in a team game and ended up with a couple of hot dogs on my team. They were running around killing everything in site.. I don't want to begrudge them of their skills and kills. They were racking up kill after kill, and earning it. But, I do my best to get even one kill. I was getting on six'es pretty good and getting some rounds in my oponents, and working my tail off to get even one round in em.. It obviously takes me longer to get the kill. I would get them smoking and almost dead, when one of the hot dog team mates would swoop down and take my kill with one burst.. Damn guys, I know you are good, and I respect that, but let me get my kill I worked my ass off to get smoking at least..

[beaker126]

I feel ya man.

[Vulcan607]

i know the feeling. but i guess its all done in the heat of the battle, i meant if its a close game i dont mind them picking off my target if it means we win.

[mattmanB182]

Thats why you should fly the G-6, you wont have to worry about just damaging them.



What frustrates me is when I finally zero in on a target, about to waste them, and get blasted from the sky by one of his team mates.

[Tudorp15]

Originally Posted by mattmanB182

What frustrates me is when I finally zero in on a target, about to waste them, and get blasted from the sky by one of his team mates.

That I have no problem with whatsoever. If I get killed by one of the enemy protecting his partners 6, so be it. Even tho ya might get a choice word out of me as I fall from the sky like a flaming meteor, but to me, that is a rightious kill, and I go down in all the flaming glory with knowing I got got... hehheh

[InfiniteStates]

Originally Posted by Tudorp15

...but let me get my kill I worked my ass off to get smoking at least..

Yeah kill stealing is a big problem for the lesser marksman (like me).

I assume you're playing arcade...? Your best bet is to take your favourite plane into training on realistic, and keeping notching down the elevator sensitivity until you can pull a full bank without stalling. Then get into, or create, realistic games.

You'll never look back after that guy explodes into flames after 1 second of gunfire

[dazz1971]

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates

Yeah kill stealing is a big problem for the lesser marksman (like me).

I assume you're playing arcade...? Your best bet is to take your favourite plane into training on realistic, and keeping notching down the elevator sensitivity until you can pull a full bank without stalling. Then get into, or create, realistic games.

You'll never look back after that guy explodes into flames after 1 second of gunfire

that is damn good advice there thats how i do it training mission 16 spits on veteren

and practise practise then i go online and discover that im still pants lmao !!!

[Tudorp15]

I think this game in particular was arcade. I like to play realistic, but today, I just couldn't find a realistic match, so I went ahead in the arcade match. I do prefer realistic. I actually fly better, and do get more kills in realistic.

As far as meaning win or loss, that damn sure wasn't the case, because we were on top something like 18-3. That is only because the two hot dogs both choose team A, and I ended up with them choosing random. But, it was 3 on 3, and they just zoomed around killing everybody, then swooping in to finish off my painful kills. It was getting irritating, and isn't the first time this has happened, but this time, just bugged me more. It is gonna get to where I wont even go into an arcade match, because I think most of them are the young gamers that like to do just what happened today. I think the Realistic, and Sim people seem to be cooler, and more "adult" players anyway. I have a couple teenagers I play allot with, that I am trying to get them into realistic more, but they are complaining about how hard it is.. I keep telling them, yeah, it is harder to get a kill I guess and keep your plane flying, but isn't that the point? If you like the other way, Ace Combat 6 can be had pretty cheap on Ebay now I think.. I dont' have a problem with people choosing teams to fly and team up with your personal friends, I do that too, but it is the hot dogging and taking your teamates kills, and flying like your ass is on fire in arcade that bugs me I guess, and I just tend to be loosing patients over..

But, no worries, it is expected me being an old man in a kids world, lol

P.S. I too like to go into training mode and put myself against 16 veterans. along with enemy ground flak and fire. I like to challenge myself, even if I do get killed allot. To me, living through a match like that is more fun than zooming around unrealistically like your ass is on fire...

[phlux]

Originally Posted by Tudorp15

But, no worries, it is expected me being an old man in a kids world, lol

I'm right there with ya brother .

[RCfalcon]

Yeah, kill stealing can be an issue sometimes. I know I was in one game where the only kills this one guy got were from jumping on planes I had already gotten smoking.

Best advice for that problem is to try and play with people you know, preferrably ones with headsets. The group I fly with keeps up a lot of communication during team battles and strike matches and call out who we're after, or if we need help, etc. Helps keep kill stealing to a minimum, and helps tactics and coordination quite a bit.

Really nice for dealing with those damned biplanes when they get on your tail =P Just call out to a team-mate, straighten out, jam the throttle to outrun them, and let your buddy swoop down on them and blow them away. Me and a buddy in a 190 must have killed the same I-153 5 times or more in the same match with that tactic. Fell for it every time.

Co-op tactics work good on IL-10's too. It can only shoot at one of you at a time.