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Old 07-06-2011, 01:41 PM
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Default A bad day for the JG 2

Checking some informations in the data, the Aug 11, 1940 was a black day for the JG 2, things went very bad and the Jagdgeschwader loss eight Bf 109 in combat this day.
Losses of the day included the Staffelkäpitan from the 6./JG 2, Hptm Edgar Rempel and Oblt Adolf Steidl from the Stab III./JG 2.Both pilots were KIA.

Such number of losses were quite rare by the Bf 109s units and were more at the side of the Ju 87s, like the 12 Stukas losses by the I./StG 77 Aug 18, 1940(of 28 as complement)

The JG 26 also had his black day. Galland had nice photos with his cigar and the telescope at his Bf 109, but, the Aug 31, 1940 six of his Bf 109s were shot down, including four from the III./JG 26 and one from the Stab I./JG 26.

But the record losses in the Battle of Britain in the Bf 109s units was for the JG 53. The Sep 15, 1940 , the unit pay the costly price of 9 Messerschmitts destroyed(of the 26 Bf 109s losses this day). The I./JG 53 alone loss seven of this Messerschmitts. A difficult end day this one, for his CO Hptm Hans-Karl Mayer.

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Old 07-06-2011, 02:00 PM
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Old 07-06-2011, 02:09 PM
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As detail , the JG 2 was a elite unit and had some priority in the delivered of new material. Six of the eight losses were E-4s, one was a E-3 and the last a E-1.
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I was expecting to read something on jg52 when I saw the other jg's mentioned, I heard that they were pulled from bob and sent to the east but I forgot why..
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About the JG 52, the Stab from August to Nov 11, 1940. Then Germany.
Used Calais Marck, Le Touquet and Coquelles.
The I./JG 52 at Coquelles from Aug 2 to Oct 31, 1940, then Germany.
The II./JG 52 a short passage, at Peuplingues from Aug 6, to Aug 18; then Jever in Germany.
The III./JG 52, a short passage at Coquelles from Jul 22 to Aug Aug 1, 1940. Then Zerbst.Too many combat losses for the III./JG 52 in so short time.
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The III./JG 52 losses start Jul 24, 1940. Was assigned to cover the retreat of Galland's JG 26 in return flight from escort mission for Do 17s over the Thames Estuary. The Spitfires of the 610 Sqn intercepted and cut the route of the III./JG 52 and three Bf 109s were shot down. Also, JG 26 loss three more Bf 109s. RAF loss six Spitfires and one Hurricane this day and three Spitfires in this mission. Next day Jul 25, 1940, III./JG 52 loss four more Bf 109s in combat.

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Uffz Otto Lange from 4./JG 2, MIA Aug 11, 1940. Of the eight JG 2 Bf 109s losses, six pilots were MIA or KIA, one was wounded and another unhurt.
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Uffz Otto Lange from 4./JG 2, MIA Aug 11, 1940. Of the eight JG 2 Bf 109s losses, six pilots were MIA or KIA, one was wounded and another unhurt.
That photo looks incredably disturbing. look at the sun glasses, so "modern". ITs not about fashion, but htat could be easely confused with a modern day 20 year old, a friend of mine or else. gives the MIA a whole new level, when you relate with that phote in whole new level.


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Old 07-06-2011, 10:03 PM
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For comparison:

Other dates beside below can be found at http://www.raf.mod.uk/bob1940/calendar.html

Date: 24 July 1940

* Weather: Channel and Straits of Dover cloudy. Coastal and hill fog in western districts spreading east. Rain in most districts.
* Day: Convoys and shipping in the Channel attacked.
* Night: Nil.

Enemy action by day

The main activity was centred in the Channel. A combat involving approximately 90 aircraft took place at midday off Deal and North Foreland. Convoys and shipping were the main objectives. A few raids penetrated inland and dropped bombs without inflicting any serious damage except near Glasgow where a printing works was practically demolished.

North and North-East

At 0630 hours, hostile aircraft appeared over Glasgow and bombed the Hillingdon district where a printing works was seriously damaged. Some windows of the Rolls Royce factory were broken and a few minor casualties are reported. This aircraft was intercepted and it is reported that the rear gunner was killed and one engine put out of action. The enemy aircraft dived into clouds and was lost but it is doubtful if it will reach home. In the afternoon, several reconnaissances were plotted in the Aberdeen area.

East and South-East

Numerous hostile reconnaissances were carried out off the East and South-East coasts and in four cases were followed by attacks on shipping. One Do215 was shot down.

Just before midday, a large force of enemy aircraft assembled behind Calais and then approached two convoys off the North Foreland and the Downs. Three squadrons were up ready to intercept. A battle ensued in which approximately fifty enemy aircraft were involved with thirty-six of our fighters. The enemy aircraft were driven off after - it is reported - having sunk two trawlers and damaged two more. Enemy losses reported in this combat are reported as 10 confirmed (including one by AA) and sixteen unconfirmed against the loss of two of our Spitfires.

At 1503 hours, an enemy aircraft crossed the coast west of Shoreham and dropped bombs on the Vickers landing ground at Weybridge and on the gas works at Walton on Thames and at Byfleet. Little damage is reported and production has not been affected. There was no interception by our fighters.

At 1727 hours, three enemy aircraft bombed ships off Dover. No 74 Squadron report that one Do215 was shot down (unconfirmed) off Manston.

At 1950 hours, a hostile track appeared 20 miles south of Hastings and is reported to have machine-gunned inshore patrols. Weather conditions were too bad for fighter action to be taken.

At 2050 hours, one Spitfire of No 66 Squadron whilst on patrol, came down in the sea 30 miles north-east of Cromer but the pilot was rescued.

South and West

At 0730 hours, a Ju88 which approached Portcawl and bombed shipping was shot down by No 92 Squadron. Several raids approached Bournemouth and Portland but faded without and attack being made. Considerable enemy reconnaissance activity was plotted in the Channel.

Statistics
Fighter Command Serviceable Aircraft as at 0900 hours, 24 July 1940

* Blenheim - 56
* Spitfire - 238
* Hurricane - 294
* Defiant - 15
* Total - 603

Casualties:

* Enemy: Fighters - 9 confirmed, 13 unconfirmed; Bombers - 3 confirmed, 4 unconfirmed.
* Own: 2 Spitfires 1 Hurricane.

* AA claims one Do215 confirmed.

* In addition it is now reported that a further four Spitfires are unserviceable owing to enemy action.

Patrols:

* 191 patrols despatched involving 591 aircraft.

Balloons:

* Flying - 1211 Casualties - 30.

Aerodromes:

* All serviceable.

Organization:

* No. 607 Squadron is now operational by day only at Usworth.
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