I'm disappointed 1C!

[micromancer]

The thread title says it all.

First of all, I technically got what I expected. A typical Men of War game: extremely tough SP missions (), the worst voice acting ever (yes, don't worry - it got even worse!) and the missions are unpredictable and imho pretty fun like they have always been.

But here starts my critism, I try to keep it constructive...

First off, this costs 30 €. For 30 €, we get 10 single-player missions that aren't even particularly long. I really expected A LOT longer missions for this money! I am only trough with the Vietnamese campaign now and I can only say: if the USA campaign isn't at least twice as long, it is NOT worth the money.
But OK, at least they are fun and challenging on hard.

Now: the games improvements compared to Men of War:
- erm.. there.. there are new HDR.. ah no wait HDR doesn't seem to work for me.. but there's.. well the new units don't have to be mentioned... maybe... no that's been in MOW already... ah I give up.
I couldn't find A SINGLE IMPROVEMENT upon the MoW game apart from a bit refined graphics. Want examples what I think could.. no SHOULD have been improved?

- The AI still fires on positions where there have been enemies before - even if those are long-dead!
- Rocket launchers ARE STILL BUGGED!! (they still lose penetration over distance) Seriously, this one got me enraged! In MoW it was bad enough but now - dont you even play your own game?!? Theres actually a tool-tip "Rocket-launchers don't lose penetration over distance etc etc".
- The AI is stupid as always - eg you can still mow them down with a motorboat - they all just charge at the coast to see what's going on
- Projectiles still fly in slow-motion
- everything else that bugged you in Men of War

And to finish this: no mod support and the MP is boring and crap compared to Assalt Squad (again, nothing apart from the units changed).

Really, I am a huge, huge MoW fan. I was eagerly awaiting this and prepurchased it instantly. I can only say: I have lost faith in you and am disappointed. Utterly disappointed. I'm sure support will be dropped, nothing will be improved at all and there we are. Ten new MoW missions with a dozen new vehicles and maybe two dozen new small arms. For the price of the full MoW game.

There's actually just one question remaining for me. What took you so long releasing this game - did you have like two men working on it?!?
Won't blind-buy the next MoW title for sure.

[D_D]

Does the MP even work? When I tried it set to LAN, I could only select the original WW2 MOW nations, of which a few USSR/US infantry would work, everything else caused a CTD when trying to buy that unit....

[psycho pigeon]

just got my cd-key on steam, i restarted steam and loaded up vietnam and it popped up.

[SaOk]

I have liked the game so far much. Super challening, but fun. I failed to destroy one huey in first campaign mission and its now shooting rockets after me. I have played now 2.1 hours the first mission and still one task to reach, so its not that short.

I also saw AI withdrawing at church, before attacking again from hideouts when some more backup arrived. Nice small details.

[totte1015]

I am so pissed of so i wont buy this game, lucky shit i didnt do it...

[highness]

so this sounds like this is just a rebadged/retextured regular M.O.W. game with new 3d models but in a jungle / vietnam theater and without any game-play improvments and/or new features?

Therefore, i highly presume that many of existing game-play annoyances glitches and bugs we already experience in other MOW series hasn't been fixed neither probably no new features hasn't been introduced...

Then if two guys were working on this it doesn't surprise me it took so long, probably one of them was doing the new 3d models and the other one painted the textures...

im a hardcore MOW fan and now when i read this thread i'm very disappointed to hear how much this highly potential game got neglected by it's developers

[kane1]

Originally Posted by micromancer

The thread title says it all.

First of all, I technically got what I expected. A typical Men of War game: extremely tough SP missions (), the worst voice acting ever (yes, don't worry - it got even worse!) and the missions are unpredictable and imho pretty fun like they have always been.

But here starts my critism, I try to keep it constructive...

First off, this costs 30 €. For 30 €, we get 10 single-player missions that aren't even particularly long. I really expected A LOT longer missions for this money! I am only trough with the Vietnamese campaign now and I can only say: if the USA campaign isn't at least twice as long, it is NOT worth the money.
But OK, at least they are fun and challenging on hard.

Now: the games improvements compared to Men of War:
- erm.. there.. there are new HDR.. ah no wait HDR doesn't seem to work for me.. but there's.. well the new units don't have to be mentioned... maybe... no that's been in MOW already... ah I give up.
I couldn't find A SINGLE IMPROVEMENT upon the MoW game apart from a bit refined graphics. Want examples what I think could.. no SHOULD have been improved?

- The AI still fires on positions where there have been enemies before - even if those are long-dead!
- Rocket launchers ARE STILL BUGGED!! (they still lose penetration over distance) Seriously, this one got me enraged! In MoW it was bad enough but now - dont you even play your own game?!? Theres actually a tool-tip "Rocket-launchers don't lose penetration over distance etc etc".
- The AI is stupid as always - eg you can still mow them down with a motorboat - they all just charge at the coast to see what's going on
- Projectiles still fly in slow-motion
- everything else that bugged you in Men of War

And to finish this: no mod support and the MP is boring and crap compared to Assalt Squad (again, nothing apart from the units changed).

Really, I am a huge, huge MoW fan. I was eagerly awaiting this and prepurchased it instantly. I can only say: I have lost faith in you and am disappointed. Utterly disappointed. I'm sure support will be dropped, nothing will be improved at all and there we are. Ten new MoW missions with a dozen new vehicles and maybe two dozen new small arms. For the price of the full MoW game.

There's actually just one question remaining for me. What took you so long releasing this game - did you have like two men working on it?!?
Won't blind-buy the next MoW title for sure.

I wish I could take your comments one point at a time and take them apart with intelligent and thought provoking counter points, but I can't, oh wait Stupid smiley face. I'm a huge fan also and you make great points(Stupid smiley face) so i guess one of my reasons for buying this game will have too be Support.

[Zombifreak]

Originally Posted by kane1

I wish I could take your comments one point at a time and take them apart with intelligent and thought provoking counter points, but I can't, oh wait Stupid smiley face. I'm a huge fan also and you make great points(Stupid smiley face) so i guess one of my reasons for buying this game will have too be Support.

Why would you support a game that deserves none? they literally just slapped some bushes in the game and charged us 35$ for a "Brand spanking new" title which shouldn't even be more than 5$

[kane1]

Originally Posted by Zombifreak

Why would you support a game that deserves none? they literally just slapped some bushes in the game and charged us 35$ for a "Brand spanking new" title which shouldn't even be more than 5$

I've been reading the comments on two forums, most of it bad. I did briefly consider not to buy this game. It wasn't until I read "Wait for it to be in the bargain bin" that I knew I wanted this game. Then I read "I'm disappointed 1C!" , micromancer has all very valid points but they won't stop me from buying this game. I own all the games starting with SHoWW2 and consider them my favorite WW2 RTS games. The day that they stop making new MoW games will be a sad day for me. I can only hope that with my continued support(and the support of others) the Dev's will keep trying to make better and better MoW games for the future.